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the English bull terrier was very popular in auss. back in the seventies when I was getting serious about hunting Hot trailling nose, miles of detmination but the bloody things wouldn't let go or if they thought it was their pig lookout any other dog to close. So to counter act this blokes crossed EBTs with cattledogs,Kelpies or any other bidible dog they could find. now the bull cattle cross is legendary around aussie pig hunting circiles. now days the pigs do suffer a lot of hunting pressure and are just as likely to run as stand and fight so most hunters use dogs with a bit of running dog in there some where. trying to combine the power of the mastiff breeds with the ternasity of the bull breeds, speed of the running dogs and the brains of the working dogs. If along the way you have thrown in a bit of hound or pointer for nose then that can only help as well. the dog on the right is an example of this mi/ ebt/greyhound /pointer xAm bulldog

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Stopping and holding boars is not a matter of size or weight in dogs, it's a function of heart and technique. We use dogs down to 25kgs and they'll swing off whatever boar sticks its head up. There ar

there are two sets of pics, aren't there; shane's action pics are from NZ (southern cross is red not white) and not sure where Bull's haul of game were taken.....(not that we need exact location)?  

LOL get a grip theres a few lads that have been taking feral pigs with their dogs for a little while now,and there not getting smashed to pieces either.

Romney marsh and Walland marsh in Kent near Dungerness are places someone with bull x's and Deerhound x Greyhounds and a couple of working Beddies could possible kill an English wild boar without the dogs getting ripped to bits (it was the place a couple of years ago!!). IME the dogs don't get knocked about much more than when run single handed on a hard fighting charlie. Obviously there is the potential for a dog to be killed but unless your dog is particularly hard/stupid it won't go nose to nose with a pig.

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I've seen wild boar not saying area but in Yorkshire whilst out lamping lads with me wanted to put dogs on it said you haven't a pray lovely to see though

 

dobby :icon_eek:

 

If the lads that were with you did put the dogs on it and the dogs were game enough to hold it, would they of been game enough to help the dogs or would they of expected the dogs to shake it and retrieve it :no:

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Romney marsh and Walland marsh in Kent near Dungerness are places someone with bull x's and Deerhound x Greyhounds and a couple of working Beddies could possible kill an English wild boar without the dogs getting ripped to bits (it was the place a couple of years ago!!). IME the dogs don't get knocked about much more than when run single handed on a hard fighting charlie. Obviously there is the potential for a dog to be killed but unless your dog is particularly hard/stupid it won't go nose to nose with a pig.

 

 

thats alot of dogs to be using on a boar mate, on smaller pigs they would make short work of it, but it would be a bloody mess and hardly sporting, if you are expect dogs to just kill pigs you are wasting your time the only way a dog can kill a med- large sixe pig is to chew through the back of the neck or chew the snot off or through the nasal passage, both ways involve alot of pain as it's not over in seconds,expecting any type of dogs to maul a pig to death is to be avoided.

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Romney marsh and Walland marsh in Kent near Dungerness are places someone with bull x's and Deerhound x Greyhounds and a couple of working Beddies could possible kill an English wild boar without the dogs getting ripped to bits (it was the place a couple of years ago!!). IME the dogs don't get knocked about much more than when run single handed on a hard fighting charlie. Obviously there is the potential for a dog to be killed but unless your dog is particularly hard/stupid it won't go nose to nose with a pig.

 

 

thats alot of dogs to be using on a boar mate, on smaller pigs they would make short work of it, but it would be a bloody mess and hardly sporting, if you are expect dogs to just kill pigs you are wasting your time the only way a dog can kill a med- large sixe pig is to chew through the back of the neck or chew the snot off or through the nasal passage, both ways involve alot of pain as it's not over in seconds,expecting any type of dogs to maul a pig to death is to be avoided.

 

 

To be truthful mate we were mooching for rabbits and foxes up near the artillery range, when we first saw the pigs. The bull crosses were slipped and the bloke holding the deerhound x greyhound slipped him as well, it was the dogs first encounter with pigs as well as ours. They looked pretty big to us (the dogs had all taken deer) excitment took over and I'll be the first to admit that it wasn't sporting but we killed our first pig. On subsequent visits we went out with pigs in mind but on most occassions slipped 3 dogs, we didn't have anyone to ask as to what was the best/right way to do it, most other blokes we spoke to had never seen them let alone hunted them! The beddlingtons were used by a mate of ours from Ireland who had used them on ALL quarry ;) ! We used them in a village called Tenterden where a guy was growing fancy types of bamboo (we found out later that he was growing marajuana in greenhouses behind the bamboo). The beddies would be entered on one side of the bamboo and the longdogs would wait on the other, as the pigs got pushed out we would slip the longdogs on them.The beddies also worked the blackberry bushes at the side of this blokes orchard. We killed 7 pigs in total, but saw a load more. I think we put them under too much pressure because they suddenly disappeared and weren't in any of the places we had permission or could safely mooch. At no time did we expect the dogs to kill the pigs, I even help my dogs out with foxes.

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so far this year we have had 12 boar and all we use is a lakeland dog and 2 bull crosses the lakeland finds the boar and keeps them entertained while the lurchers hold the pig we get in and knife it just behind the front leg game over another one for the freezer, the lurchers do have a tendancy to rip the ears of the pigs and all this happens down in deepest somerset who needs a passport? its exelent sport

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so far this year we have had 12 boar and all we use is a lakeland dog and 2 bull crosses the lakeland finds the boar and keeps them entertained while the lurchers hold the pig we get in and knife it just behind the front leg game over another one for the freezer, the lurchers do have a tendancy to rip the ears of the pigs and all this happens down in deepest somerset who needs a passport? its exelent sport

 

any pics?,be great to see anyone in the UK doing Boar/wild Pig hunting with dogs?

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so far this year we have had 12 boar and all we use is a lakeland dog and 2 bull crosses the lakeland finds the boar and keeps them entertained while the lurchers hold the pig we get in and knife it just behind the front leg game over another one for the freezer, the lurchers do have a tendancy to rip the ears of the pigs and all this happens down in deepest somerset who needs a passport? its exelent sport

 

what are the weights of the boars you get..?

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