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#16 Mr_Logic

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Posted 24 April 2009 - 10:41 am

For bunnies? Hmmm.

Make sure you get a finer reticle than the standard cross hair then, otherwise you will struggle. I would suggest a different make with perhaps less good glass, but a bit more magnification!

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 01:23 pm

Ok I lied, just picked my rifle up this morning from FA Andersons in E. Grinstead.... Anschutx .17 HMR with sporter stock and S&B 6x42 Hungarian on top.... chap in the shop reckoned it shouldn't be too much of a prob....?

Mr. Logic... I see where you're coming from....
I'll post some pics on the forum and should be zeroing it tomorrow with any luck so I'll let ya know how I get on... Cheers!

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 09:20 pm

Ok I lied, just picked my rifle up this morning from FA Andersons in E. Grinstead.... Anschutx .17 HMR with sporter stock and S&B 6x42 Hungarian on top.... chap in the shop reckoned it shouldn't be too much of a prob....?

Mr. Logic... I see where you're coming from....
I'll post some pics on the forum and should be zeroing it tomorrow with any luck so I'll let ya know how I get on... Cheers!


how much did you get the anchutz for and how much was the scope? just interested, cheers

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 09:30 pm

Ok I lied, just picked my rifle up this morning from FA Andersons in E. Grinstead.... Anschutx .17 HMR with sporter stock and S&B 6x42 Hungarian on top.... chap in the shop reckoned it shouldn't be too much of a prob....?

Mr. Logic... I see where you're coming from....
I'll post some pics on the forum and should be zeroing it tomorrow with any luck so I'll let ya know how I get on... Cheers!


i tried a s&b 6x42 on my hmr after taking it off my 223.......bloody thing was worse than useless on the hmr...didnt have a hope at 150 yard head shots......exellent scope on a 22lr were it is now

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:37 pm

leupold vx3 4.5-14x50lr nice fine reticle and enough magnification,got 2 s+b 6x42 and 8x56 brilliant scopes for .243 and .308 but would,nt dream of putting them on my hmr reticle far to heavy in my opinion :tongue2:

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:14 pm

What are the prices of these scopes? :o


Why are they better than my BSA Essential 6-24X50 AO?
The BSA looks to me like really an excellent scope , even at 24X zoom it is very good :hmm:


I like to see the target close up , so i can try to make a better shot :hmm: :hmm:

Edited by elvolcan, 26 April 2009 - 09:17 pm.


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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:29 pm

What are the prices of these scopes? http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


Why are they better than my BSA Essential 6-24X50 AO?
The BSA looks to me like really an excellent scope , even at 24X zoom it is very good http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


I like to see the target close up , so i can try to make a better shot http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

Have you ever looked through a Leupold VX-III or a Schmidt & Bender? If not, try one.

Then, find someone who has one and try it again, this time in low light or on the lamp. You won't need any further argument!

But if you do... adjustments adjust properly. The scopes are better made and better finished.

Mainly though, they actually do what they are meant to do, which is why they're worth the money!!

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 02:19 am

What are the prices of these scopes? http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


Why are they better than my BSA Essential 6-24X50 AO?
The BSA looks to me like really an excellent scope , even at 24X zoom it is very good http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


I like to see the target close up , so i can try to make a better shot http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

Have you ever looked through a Leupold VX-III or a Schmidt & Bender? If not, try one.

Then, find someone who has one and try it again, this time in low light or on the lamp. You won't need any further argument!

But if you do... adjustments adjust properly. The scopes are better made and better finished.

Mainly though, they actually do what they are meant to do, which is why they're worth the money!!


i would of thought if you get a milk bottle and stick it on the end of an s&b scope then look through it it would still be clearer than any cheapy bsa scope :clapper: :clapper: :clapper: ....s&b dont do or need gimiks.just plain and exellent scopes that do exactly what they are designed to do....

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:14 pm

i guess but they only have like 6x zoom unless you want to pay about 2grand lol

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:52 pm

Try Leupold VX-III, Bushnell 4200, Nikon Monarch. A bit more than your BSAs but much better.

The top European glass is amazing, but IMHO you can get by with less. I have a 6.5-20 VX-III, and while it's not as good as my 8x56 Schmidt, it was far cheaper than the Schmidt 4-16x50. I've never been in the field with it, and wished I had a better scope. That has happened a lot with the the cheap crap I used to use...

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 04:54 pm

Ok I lied, just picked my rifle up this morning from FA Andersons in E. Grinstead.... Anschutx .17 HMR with sporter stock and S&B 6x42 Hungarian on top.... chap in the shop reckoned it shouldn't be too much of a prob....?

Mr. Logic... I see where you're coming from....
I'll post some pics on the forum and should be zeroing it tomorrow with any luck so I'll let ya know how I get on... Cheers!


how much did you get the anchutz for and how much was the scope? just interested, cheers

the anschutz was i think £715 and the scope £440 or so...

Ok I lied, just picked my rifle up this morning from FA Andersons in E. Grinstead.... Anschutx .17 HMR with sporter stock and S&B 6x42 Hungarian on top.... chap in the shop reckoned it shouldn't be too much of a prob....?

Mr. Logic... I see where you're coming from....
I'll post some pics on the forum and should be zeroing it tomorrow with any luck so I'll let ya know how I get on... Cheers!


i tried a s&b 6x42 on my hmr after taking it off my 223.......bloody thing was worse than useless on the hmr...didnt have a hope at 150 yard head shots......exellent scope on a 22lr were it is now
well I never really realised how bloody far 100 yd actually is! especially for a small target life a rabbit, but I reckon the reticule covers about 3/4 - 1 inch at 100 yd but I wanted to get really decent glass as I hadn't spent that much on my previous scope... (£50)- 3-9x56 IR walther but didn't want to spend megabucks.... also the 6x42 looks much better on a small trim rifle like that anyways.... and unless they're reaaaaly jittery, i suspect you can stalk within at least 100 yd of any bunny? and at night? well they're as good as dead :laugh: (plus you get a better cheek weld to boot)



i guess but they only have like 6x zoom unless you want to pay about 2grand lol


absoulutely!!! variable continental scopes is where the cheque book tries escaping from your pocket :laugh:

plus you can't get POI change by changing the scope mag as you can with cheap extreem zoom range scopes...

Edited by danebrewer10, 27 April 2009 - 05:01 pm.


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Posted 27 April 2009 - 05:34 pm

thanks for your help, especially mr.logic - it helps me understand different scopes a lot more.

can i ask would these scopes be any good on my .17hmr for instance? which is the better brand?

Nikko Stirling Platinum Nite Eater 6-24x56 £230 down to £180
Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40 £150 down to £70



ATB :)

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 06:03 pm

tum tum te tum..... hmmm IIII'd go with the nikko.... as you've got better magnification... if you want the cheaper scope but still nothing to sniff at on the features side... go with the bushnell, as you don't really need to use kentucky elevation with the HMR, i'd go with the bushnell as the magnification range will suit just fine (duplex reticule), esp. if you get a bunny pop out 20 yd away.... pooosibly a bit tricky if you're stuck on 24x zoom :clapper: Gotta say I haven't actuallly had any experience with either of these myself, but I looked through the 4-16x50 Nikko Nighteater at the gunshop and it looks pretty decent - clear and good finish/build, which might be a better buy... as you don't really need 24X zoom... IMHO

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 08:23 pm

I'd not get either of them. If you want cheap then get a JSR, they're not actually as bad as their cheap price tag suggests.

On an HMR, you don't need to go mad, but you do want half-decent optics, and good adjustments.

I would go with either Bushnell Elite 3200 (have one and it's very good, for the money. Adjustments work properly and the optics are clear and relatively bright) or a Nikon Buckmaster (Fieldmaster). Both ranges are the cheap side of good.

I'd go with 4-12x40 or 50, as I find 3-9 a little bit light for 150-yard rabbits. Bushnell will be about £250 for that, and the Nikon a similar amount. If you are happy with a fixed mag, then Bushnell's Elite 3200 10x40 will work very well.

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Posted 28 April 2009 - 10:25 pm

I have a Hawake Endurance 30 ir 3 - 12 x 50 on my marlin, its been doing a pretty good job for the last 2 years or so.


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