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Dogs know the difference between sheep and deer, dont worry about that.

but it is a good idea just to double-check once they have dropped their first deer (pre-ban).

 

Personally i have never had one of my dogs worry sheep and only onece did one run one a little way. They know the difference.

 

If your in tune with your sapling he will know what he is allowed to chase and what he isnt....

 

true enough darcy but i have seen more lads with weaton or bull crosses

break their dogs to sheep and work deer only to find they have an interest in sheep again

these lads where for ever saying the same they all

know the difference ended up on my permission with one dead sheep

an old dog and a pup ruined.my own dog on the lead.

from now on all dogs will be on lead around sheep

on our permission. every dog is stock broken until it changes its mind.

i find with the tougher type dogs even when they 100% stock broken

all it takes is some one elses dog to have a go and they all chase

with the jelous terrier streak some can have.

a sheep caught in box fencing can also kick them off

for me the lead on around my permission for any one in around sheep.

have seen it more than once saying he never looked at sheep before

you can loose a hole area over sheep getting killed

macker

 

 

Very true, A mate had colliex grey, dog was 5 years old it was spot on with sheep day+night. Then he got a Border terrier pup broke that to sheep. Then one day when the terrier was 15 months old, he was having a mooch, and the terrier knocked a fox out of some cover.Both dogs went flat out after it, fox must have got away.When both dogs were coming, the terrier saw a sheep away from the rest of the flock. The terrier went for it and Did the feckin Lurcher, my mate got them of it just in time. He then wacked the feckin Two of them. His lurcher was great with sheep for [6] years, then out of the feckin blue that happend.??? So as above i dont think you can[ Really] Trust any dog 100%, and a farmer told me that collie's, never take your eye of them.?? Ive got a 1x collie grey, and he is ok with sheep, i never take any x for Granted with sheep , Especially a collie x . ;):)

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The lurchers I have are spot on just hope I can turn this bitch around I wont take her out with my lurchers dont want them picking up bad habits and if so much as her ears prick while I have her out on lead she will be repremanded I have a mate that has 5 big tups so ill muzzell her and put her in with one of them and see if this breaks her I thik fear of them is the only way to correct this when she went in to the sheep at scotland she made contact with it then backed off and left it alone but still not forgiveable thanks for advice lads.

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Just a case of always being vigilant, one of my dogs is 10 and was introduced to stock from 8 weeks, last year a goose sneaked up behind me and bit my leg, the dog grabbed the goose and gave it a shake and it waddled off a little unsteady but fine but I was gobsmaked. 100% stcok broken is easily said but it pays to keep an eye open...................

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locking a young dog in a pen with a tup :angry: your trying to break it to stock not make it terrified.... i just let them see stock of all kinds for as long as possible before they learn that they have the hunt / kill instinct inside them.... i have how ever witnessed a lurcher that was broken to low ground sheep, ie tidy grass fed ones, turn and so a hill sheep, wether its a different smell or what im not sure

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