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#31 lancer

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 12:58 pm

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If you want to send me your email address then i will send you the link for Hunters United and on there you can read more about the Minshaw lurchers, i dont want to really put up any more pics etc, i will keep them for the book http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

cheers ill get the daughter to do that when she gets in from school, good luck with the book.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 01:04 pm

how was meg the flying carpet bred


Meg was out of Blaze (Bulpa x Gemma greyhound) and Sandy a deerhound cross

Well, ive been sitting writing draft copies up about our dogs for the impending Minshaw book to be written by JDarcy and i would like to share this story with you about Meg aka Scruff or the flying carpet http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... , get the tissues ready http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

One day, back in Oct 04, Meg was lying listless in the middle of the back garden, she was never one for leaving her kennel so we knew something wasnt right. She never attempted to move or even lift her head up when we approached her.On closer inspection we could see the whites of her eyes were yellow and the inside of her ears and gums were whitely pale. nope: Andy picked her up and put her in the car and we took her to the vets. The vet gave her an examination and told us he could feel a large blockage in her liver. We could either give her tablets to try and dissolve the blockage or put her to sleep.We owed it to Meg to give her a chance so the vet gave her an injection and a course of tablets and we took her home.
The next morning she was worse http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... and breathing very shallow. We drove as fast as we could to the vets at Cockermouth, as this was the only vet open at that time. Jamie, our eldest son, wanted to come with her because i had brought Meg as a pup from my dads, who had bred her, for him, they were inseperable from the moment they met and as i thought then they could grow up together. Andy carried Meg into the surgery, I went in also but Jamie just wanted to stay in the car. The vet told us that Megs liver had completey failed and she was suffering and there was nothing more that could be done for her. We had no alternative but to put her to sleep.While the vet was shaving her leg, I looked through the window at Jamie sitting in the car, innocently not knowing what was happening to his little dog inside that room. All this time Meg had just laid there not moving but just as the vet was about to put the needle in her leg she lifted her head up and looked straight at me and Andy as if to say thankyou and goodbye then she laid her head back down. Both of us couldnt hold back the tears then, that was an unbelievable thing to witness. As soon as the vet confirmed Meg was gone a clear liquid started pouring out of her mouth, dripping off the table onto the floor. The vet said this was the release of the build up of bile that had collected in Megs liver. Before we left i asked the vet to cut a piece of Megs hair off and with this is my hand i had to go back to the car to break the news to Jamie that his best friend had gone http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
Even today, 4 years later, Jamie has a beautiful picture of Meg framed in his bedroom and placed just behind the glass is Megs hair. Even though she was only with us 6 short years, Meg was a privelage to own.

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Dean with Jack and Jamie with lal Meg.
Nice read APW... Atb T 7

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 06:51 pm

APW any idea when the book on minshows will be in print, look forwood to reading it.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:01 pm

I would think that £400 for a FULL Minshaw bred pup would be a reasonable price; but surely these pups are not FULL Minshaw ???? I may be mistaken in this, and if so, I apologise, but for some one to line their bitch with a Minshaw dog and claim the pups are "Minshaw" pups, is just wrong !
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:30 pm

did minshaw have a breed of dogs which come out saluki bull greyhounds about 15 months ago

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 07:33 pm

[quote name='cantona' date='Nov 11 2008, 06:51 PM' post='756436']
APW any idea when the book on minshows will be in print, look forwood to reading it.

The book is as we speak in the process of being done,J Darcy has assured me that things are looking very good,he has plenty of info to keep him going for a fair while i'd say ;) ,the book i'm told will be completed and up for grabs around this time next year if things go smoothly with no hitches.




[quote name='chartpolski' date='Nov 11 2008, 07:01 PM' post='756437']
I would think that £400 for a FULL Minshaw bred pup would be a reasonable price; but surely these pups are not FULL Minshaw ???? I may be mistaken in this, and if so, I apologise, but for some one to line their bitch with a Minshaw dog and claim the pups are "Minshaw" pups, is just wrong !
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You are correct in what you've said CP as these pups are 3/4 Minshaw with the other 1/4 Saluki lurcher :victory: ,it's a tough call possibly for folks to say whether they are or they aren't Minshaw bred,obviously they are NOT full but the higher % is Minshaw blood :) ,i'll let those that are interested in them make that decision :thumbs: .All the best Andy. :drink:

Just to add,the young bitch i'm currently bringing on is only a 3/4 Minshaw bred and she ain't doing to bad,she's 15 month old tomorrow and has already put some game in the bag,my old dog Jack is her sire,her dam Flash was bred out of Jack's full brother Moscow owned by Joe Ox and a Bull/Grey x Deerhound.Joe gave me the bitch at no cost at 11 month old when a bitch i had was unfortunately killed,i owe Joe a big favour and he knows it'll be returned when and if needed ;) .I class her rightly or wrongly as Minshaw bred so who knows?

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:32 pm

Andy, if your pup is "only" 3/4 Minshaw, I'm sure it'll be a good'un, or you wouldn't have taken it on !! I was sorely tempted to take one of Joes Jack x his wee bull x cross bitch pups, but I'm just not ready for a pup at the moment. I'll bet good money they will do the biz in the right hands !!
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 08:54 pm

Andy, if your pup is "only" 3/4 Minshaw, I'm sure it'll be a good'un, or you wouldn't have taken it on !! I was sorely tempted to take one of Joes Jack x his wee bull x cross bitch pups, but I'm just not ready for a pup at the moment. I'll bet good money they will do the biz in the right hands !!
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To be honest CP,i think they will make very good pups and i was keen on getting one myself but i'd just took in a "refuge" more or less without any thought,the bitches previous owner commited suicide and we thought we'd rehome the lads loyal jukel,she took atleast three weeks to settle in,brought kennel cough with her then came in season :o ,she was bred by nighttimenellie out of his bitch Kiera,she is a smart looking bitch BUT on the couple of times i've taken her out she has more problems then someone you'd find on the Jeremy Kyle show ;) .She didn't retrieve,yaps,has knocked her feet up on both occasions :( ,my son had her out earlier today chasing a few bunnies and she never yapped once,fingers crossed now she is settling in and adapting to the new training regime and therefore becoming much fitter the yapping may cease,she hadn't been out for over a year when we got her and my mate who had seen her at work said she never yapped, and she carried to hand also,so we'll see how she does this next black week,perhaps she was just running very keen and frustrated after not being out for so long?.These are my two current runners below,Ginny my Minshaw pup and Jazz who is more or less Collie/Grey with 1/4 Minshaw.Ginny took 24 of these from 36 on only her 3rd ever look on the lamp and Jazz got the other dozen on her 1st look for us.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 09:58 pm

What were these dogs like at taking fox preban?? could a minshaw bred dog take a couple of nights foxing a week throughout the season??

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 10:22 pm

What were these dogs like at taking fox preban?? could a minshaw bred dog take a couple of nights foxing a week throughout the season??



Foxes are something that has never been high on my hit list Scouser to be honest,my old dog Jack could polish a fox as good as any,he would have them breathless in seconds but intruth he never took that many,they are worthless in my eyes,but fair play to the lads/lasses that get out and do them,all respect to them.My mate had a Minshaw bred dog called Rambo and it was an absolute destroyer of them,another friend had one called Nigger and it too could and did take them regularly,plenty were capable of doing the task it just hasn't ever been a "must" for my dogs to take them.Jack's sire Bulpa took his 1st fox at 8 month old and he took plenty but i still wouldn't of said he was a fox dog compared to some of the Bull x's and high percentage Greyhound x's i've seen doing the do ;) .Have you ever heard of this dog from Liverpool? he was a Minshaw dog called Traveller and he was known to poilsh a few foxes :thumbs: obviously the dog never killed all these but he took well into double figures over a long weekend of beating/flushing/lamping/shooting.

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Posted 11 November 2008 - 10:28 pm

What were these dogs like at taking fox preban?? could a minshaw bred dog take a couple of nights foxing a week throughout the season??



Foxes are something that has never been high on my hit list Scouser to be honest,my old dog Jack could polish a fox as good as any,he would have them breathless in seconds but intruth he never took that many,they are worthless in my eyes,but fair play to the lads/lasses that get out and do them,all respect to them.My mate had a Minshaw bred dog called Rambo and it was an absolute destroyer of them,another friend had one called Nigger and it too could and did take them regularly,plenty were capable of doing the task it just hasn't ever been a "must" for my dogs to take them.Jack's sire Bulpa took his 1st fox at 8 month old and he took plenty but i still wouldn't of said he was a fox dog compared to some of the Bull x's and high percentage Greyhound x's i've seen doing the do http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... .Have you ever heard of this dog from Liverpool? he was a Minshaw dog called Traveller and he was known to poilsh a few foxes http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... obviously the dog never killed all these but he took well into double figures over a long weekend of beating/flushing/lamping/shooting http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

Obo wasn't too shy either... ;)

Point taken Andy, as I did see two dogs come down direct from Vic in the 80's that just wern't up for 'em.
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Posted 11 November 2008 - 10:47 pm

Wasnt Rambo down here in liverpool for a bit was this dog Traveller here at the same time :thumbs:

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 12:44 pm

£400 is a joke, they're lurchers nothing more nothing less.


.If you don't mind me asking Chubs how much did you pay for your pedigree Whippet? and how much is he at stud for? I'd hazard a guess and say he'll not of been cheap.Imo a dogs only worth what YOU (the buyer) think it's worth http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... .All the best Andy.


I paid 200 quid for him k.c & sold his pups at 260 to 300 with k.c but that's k.c which is all bollocks & about money, his stud fee for a lurcher would be 60 quid ish. paying 400 or 150 for a lurcher if bought from working dogs will end up with the same result, a working lurcher.....hopefully.

I stand buy it £400 quid is a joke & for people that think chucking money at something will get them a world beater fantasy dog which we all know just ain't the case.

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 12:48 pm

I fear people will be buying Minshaw dogs to make money and not for the love of running them is going to be a common occurance once the Minshaw book comes out! Which IMO is not a good thing! Are the parents tried and tested? or just bred out of tried and tested dogs which IMO makes a big difference. I dont think £400 is stupid money compared to what is asked for coursing dogs however commercialising dogs is never a good thing for any type of dogs!


agree with this. I'm really not looking for an argument i just find 400 ridiculous when you can buy a top class lurcher for £150, it's the name that's being bought nothing more, it's profitting from lurchers when they shouldn't be bred for money just to use in my mind. there's just too many as it is. of course i can't talk , i bred dogs for cash..never a lurcher though....hmme how much can you get for them you say? l.o.l

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Posted 12 November 2008 - 05:04 pm

What were these dogs like at taking fox preban?? could a minshaw bred dog take a couple of nights foxing a week throughout the season??



Foxes are something that has never been high on my hit list Scouser to be honest,my old dog Jack could polish a fox as good as any,he would have them breathless in seconds but intruth he never took that many,they are worthless in my eyes,but fair play to the lads/lasses that get out and do them,all respect to them.My mate had a Minshaw bred dog called Rambo and it was an absolute destroyer of them,another friend had one called Nigger and it too could and did take them regularly,plenty were capable of doing the task it just hasn't ever been a "must" for my dogs to take them.Jack's sire Bulpa took his 1st fox at 8 month old and he took plenty but i still wouldn't of said he was a fox dog compared to some of the Bull x's and high percentage Greyhound x's i've seen doing the do http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... .Have you ever heard of this dog from Liverpool? he was a Minshaw dog called Traveller and he was known to poilsh a few foxes http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... obviously the dog never killed all these but he took well into double figures over a long weekend of beating/flushing/lamping/shooting.

To be honest I personally havnt heard of Traveller I may be a bit too young :D although there are a few lads who ran dogs with a bit of minshaw blood in them near me and they were pretty handy fox dogs! but i dont think they were real close stuff??

I know Joe Ox has just bred a litter of bull/minshaw lurchers do you know anybody else with pups bred this way?? If so what did they turn out like on fox etc??

Thanks for the reply

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