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#1 SportingShooter

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 10:40 am

Over the last fortnight on the shoot, we have had a number of distubances on one of our farms, these have included people shooting illegally at night and then trying to break, enter and steal farm equipment from the yard.
It has confused me no end as the police will not give us clear details.
I had a visit from two officers three days ago, as did my headkeeper as we are the two people who shoot there the most.
The police asked me what shooting i performed on the ground and when, which was reasonable as well as if i had a .22 'Rifle' no mention of whether air or rimfire, or centrefire for that matter. They should have known that from my FAC staright away, so why ask, this is the first point i dont understand. The second is how they know it is a .22 rifle. I leave fired rimfire cases there now and again but they are for a .17HMR. They have taken five days to come and see us and the landowner, this seems strange where guns are involved, they ought to be there instantly when it was reported last monday.
They also have reports of people shooting out of a car window on common land near the shoot, which they asked if i knew anything about, i said i have found several empty Beretta CX4 Storm Co2 cartridges which i have kept incase they asked, they were not interested in the slightest, didnt even want to see them. Nor did they want to see my certificates.
This entire situation has got me and my keeper completely confused. The facts dont add up.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:35 am

just one coment,police are incompetent arse holes full stop......

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 11:44 am

yes mate they suspect you , thats why all the questions.

because they know there very unlikly to catch the culprit red handed, they are asking the people who already have acsses, and who they know has guns

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:03 pm

I suspect that unfortunately the police simply don't know what they are doing!

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:31 pm

I drew the exact same conclusion as Deker. Then I saw what P&G had said :laugh: Let's say; Somewhere between those two lies the truth! :D

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 05:58 pm

Over the last fortnight on the shoot, we have had a number of distubances on one of our farms, these have included people shooting illegally at night and then trying to break, enter and steal farm equipment from the yard.
It has confused me no end as the police will not give us clear details.
I had a visit from two officers three days ago, as did my headkeeper as we are the two people who shoot there the most.
The police asked me what shooting i performed on the ground and when, which was reasonable as well as if i had a .22 'Rifle' no mention of whether air or rimfire, or centrefire for that matter. They should have known that from my FAC staright away, so why ask, this is the first point i dont understand. The second is how they know it is a .22 rifle. I leave fired rimfire cases there now and again but they are for a .17HMR. They have taken five days to come and see us and the landowner, this seems strange where guns are involved, they ought to be there instantly when it was reported last monday.
They also have reports of people shooting out of a car window on common land near the shoot, which they asked if i knew anything about, i said i have found several empty Beretta CX4 Storm Co2 cartridges which i have kept incase they asked, they were not interested in the slightest, didnt even want to see them. Nor did they want to see my certificates.
This entire situation has got me and my keeper completely confused. The facts dont add up.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
Regards
ss06


This is the Police all over, as has already been said, they really don't know what they are doing. It always seems they will take only the easy option everytime. They just make things harder for us good guys!. Was down visiting a friend who lives in Cleveland. They have a bit of trouble with poachers, which is getting worse. He told me the Police have been told not to approach poachers as they might be armed! Well who gave them the licence in the first place? If they won't go near them, how are we supposed to stop them? No wonder you and your keeper are confused! Hope you are able to get this sorted out ok.
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 06:12 pm

I think if my keeper caught them then the police wouldnt even be involved :whistling:
He's not the sort of man to involve the law when things get out of hand, he is perfectly capable and willing to sort it himself, i think of him as a victorian keeper born in the wrong age, but he'll do anything to keep the shoot going.
Not the best image for shooting, but he is winding down now so i dont think he is all that concerned.
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p.s everything said above is absolutely true of the police, take the easy way out.

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Posted 15 April 2008 - 09:04 pm

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:40 pm

hope you catch them mate. where in south wales are you?

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Posted 21 April 2008 - 08:50 pm

sam (oh ye i have a hw77 not a bad gun i think :] )
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Posted 21 April 2008 - 09:01 pm

Supprised people are not taking the piss that you are being poached. Many bods on here think its alright to take game as they please and even post about it, some thing I have reported by PM and nothing was done not even a reply.
I have had the occasional problem with poachers, I think its best to deal with the problems yourself and report it if it goes wrong.
The police force are over worked and can be clueless about certain things.

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 09:12 am

well hear gos :icon_redface: there not all bad.. last year we had some roe and red shot with a .22.. we found 4 hidden / dumped and shot another a few days later that was lame, again with .22 wounds :censored: :censored: we reported it to the police, with in 12 hours it was on our local news and page 2 of our locall rag :icon_eek: :icon_eek: ..... the best bit is that the tossers that did it went bragging in his local (where 7 people took it upon them selves to grass them up) it was later found that the .22 was taken from his father without permission or certificate... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: ... they got a years probation a 900 note fine :clapper:

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 10:47 am

On a large estate local to me, there is a large number of deer and they have been poached by people using long dogs and .22 r/f. They are often found by a ranger, who I know well, with bits hacked off them, the bits the poachers want and just left. I went shooting with him on friday,we were after crows and pigeons, and we came across a fallow doe which was wounded by a .22, in a terrible state, it kept moving away each time we tried toget closer so my friend duly put it out its misery with a clean shot.
These people defy belief, I am glad I do not have deer on my ground or it could get worse. If only the local rag reported these then it may just decrease, though unlikely.
Did the father of those people get prosecuted for not securing his guns?
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P.S, Sam I',in the West Glam area and the HW77 is a fine gun, I use it mainly for maggies in the garden.

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 12:18 pm

he lost his ticket, but got no charges brought against him... he was away working on the rigs at the time and must have proved he had taken reasonable steps to keep the keys hidden,

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Posted 22 April 2008 - 07:58 pm

i caught him for you, so you can kick his ass





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