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:hmm: Well,..when I first read this thread,...I thought to myself,..what a shame 'things' have to turn out like they do',..but,.LONG experience in meeting hundreds of mouchers and rabbiters has taught me that 'fall outs are bound to occur amongst the guys,.and there is precious little one can do to prevent it.. In hindsight,.I have been involved in countless bust-ups and girly arguments ,..that could of so easily been avoided...and I generaly regret shouting my big mouth off....it never realy solves the problem....

And of late, I am beginning to think that we should accept people for what they are.

None of us are angels,...least of all myself... :laugh:

We all make silly statements and get involved in daft escapades,...and sadly we have to live with the consequences of our ill-chosen words and actions for all eternity... :no:

 

Same with the written word...

It is difficult for amateur writers,...(and I would have to place myself fairly near the top of that list when it comes to putting pen to paper),...and we frequently get things wrong,..or,.due to a basic lack of planning and skillful wordsmanship,...the information imparted sometimes comes out 'all wrong'.

 

It goes with the territory,.and unless you have a good 'copy editor' or someone experienced at your side,...you are bound to talk like a total c**t from time to time... :yes:

 

However,.I digress.... :laugh:

 

I have had dealings with both Mole Catcher and Simon Whitehead over the last year,...and they have been generous enough to help me out with certain things. Mole Catcher was good enough to supply me with one of his 'improved' Long Net baskets,...and I have used this tool extensively and it is now being worked by some keen rabbiting enthusiasts from the mighty Rhonda Valley,...

in short,.it has gone International :toast:

 

By the same token,..Simon Whitehead has been kind enough to allow me to advertise certain items on his stand at the Country Shows and Game Fairs.

 

I was always under the impression that Mole Catcher and Simon were great pals,...but obviously not,..and that alone tells us that we should never take things for granted,..coz,..'fings ain't always what they seem'.... ;)

 

I STILL hold to my original viewpoint,..that history will relate that Simon Whitehead will go on to become VERY well known in the ferreting world...

I was once forced to stand back and watch another wordsmith become famous,...and the truth of the matter is,..constant ,.never-ending ,.adverts and saturation of articles,.photos and Dvds will inevitably wear down even the staunchest of critics... :yes:

 

There will always be folk 'out there' that we know to be in the game solely for their own ends and possibly,.their ego's,.and they will crush anyone who tries to get in their way,.often by the most devious of methods.. :cry:

Unfortunatly,..... once they see their ultimate goal and that fame train starts rolling,..it really does take some fecking stopping,...trust me,..I've been in the way of one,..several times... ;)

 

ANYWAY.... :laugh:

 

For most folk,.the rabbit catching season is on the wane,...its time to have some fun,...and I for one want no more 'wars of the words'....

The long hot summer will soon be here,.it will drag on and on,.the ferreting days will be but a distant memory,..but it will pass,.as it always does,..

I want to feel that ancient urge to walk out once more...

Trust me,..It will creep up on us ever so slowly,..like an itch that must be itched,...it will not go away....

Not long to wait now.... :)

 

AS for the technicalities of this or that poxy net,...who fecking cares,..lets just get them rabbits well tangled.... :clapper:

 

All the best,...CHALKWARREN.... :drink:

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WELL WHERE DO YOU START WITH THIS THREAD.

 

FIRST OF ALL MOLE CATCHER IN YOUR FIRST POST YOU SAID IT WASN'T A SLUR OR ABOUT HIS PROFESSIONALISM. YOU THEN GO ON TO ATACK HIM. AND CALL HIS BULLSHIT.

 

MOLECATCHER; I CALLED HIS STATEMENTS OF THIS THAT AND THE OTHER NOT WORKING AS BULLSHIT, NOT HIM AS A PERSON

 

TO BE HONEST I DONT QUITE UNDERSTAND Q1 ,

 

MOLECATCHER. I WAS ASKING HIM THAT IF THE NETS USED BOTH DAY AND NIGHT WERE THE SAME NET BUT FOLK CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE A DEDICATED SET THAN SURELY WE CAN TAKE THIS RESONING A STAGE FURTHER AND EQUATE TO REGARDLESS OF THEM BEING FIXED OR TRAD SET ARNT THEY SIMPLY THE SAME NET?

 

IN Q2 YOU NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION YOUR SELF . YOU JUST STATED THERE IS MORE TO THE TRAD NET THAN JUST STORIGE. SO WHAT IS IT?

 

MOLECATCHER; THE POINT OF MY QUESTIONS WERE TO ASK SIMON WHY HE HAD CAME TO THE DECISSION THAT THE ONLY ADVANTAGE A TRAD NET HAS IS STORAGE. THE WHOLE POINT OF MY POST WAS TO GET HIS VIEW NOT TO GIVE HIM MINE. THIS I HAVE HOWEVER DONE ON THE OTHER SITE.

 

Q3 LETS BE HONEST THE FIXED METHOD IS IDIOT PROOF. YOU SAID YOU CANT DICTATE WHER YOU PLACE POLES. I DISSAGREE APART FROM GOING FORWARD OR BACK , YOU CAN CARRY EXTRA WANDS TO HELP IN THESE SITUATIONS..

 

MOLECATCHER; SO THIS IS WHERE THE QUICKSET NO LONGER BECOMES THE QUICKSET AS YOU HAVE TO FANNY AROUND CARRING MORE GEAR ADDING MORE TWISTS TO THE RUNNING LINES WHERE AS THE TRAD SET IS SIMPLY SET AS YOU GO AS THE SITUATION DICTATES, SEEMS TO ME THIS FITS IN NICELY TO QUESTION2 ABOUT THERE BEING MORE THAN ONE THING IN THE FAVOUR OF THE TRAD NET OTHER THAN STORAGE

 

AND YOU SAY YOU CANT SLACKEN THE FOOT LINE, AND TIGHTEN THE HEAD LINE . OH YES YOU CAN :yes: JUST PLACE THE POLE IN SHORT , AND TWIST THE HEAD LINE ROUND.

 

MOLECATCHER; AGAIN MORE TIME SPENT ADJUSTING RATHER THAN SETTING TO SUIT AS YOU ALWAYS DO WITH THE TRAD NET

 

Q6 THIS IS THE BIT YOU MENTION NEEDING TO CARRY TWO BASKETS, AGAIN NOT TRUE

 

IF YOU COME TO A FENCE AND YOU HAVE POLES AND NET LEFT , JUST LIFT THEM OUT OF THE BASKET AND PLACE THEM ON THE GROUND, CLIME FENCE AND START A FRESH NET THE OTHER SIDE. MOST OF THE BASKETS ARE ABLE TO CARRY 2 100 YRD NETTS

 

OR IF THERES A LOT OF NET LEFT JUST LET THE NET GO OVER THE TOP OF THE FENCE , YES YOU WILL LOOSE ONE SECTION OF NET.

 

MOLECATCHER; BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT SIMON SAID IN HIS ARTICLE HE SAID SIMPLY FINISH ONE NET ONE SIDE AND START ANOTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE AND I ASKED HIM TO VALIDATE THIS STATEMENT

 

now then there are some questions i didn't answer , i was not sure about the amount of strech and was suprised that it was that much.

 

perhaps you fellas know simon better than I , but i have met him on a number of ocasions , and speak with him from time to time,on the phone . he has always given me good advise and has even put work my way.

 

so i have a lot of time for him , i have never found him to be arogant , or even thought he was trying to climb some kind of fame ladder. you guys obvoiusly see him difret to me.

 

yes he does the shows in the summer, nowt wrong in earning ££££££££ .

MOLECATCHER; NOTHING WRONG IN EARNING A FEW QUID, WE ALL DO IT BY TO WHAT ENDS? LIES AND MISTRUTHS?

 

to be honest i dont agree with evrything he said in the post , but like was said erlier it was his opinion, as this is my opinion. i honestly think you were being very picky, about the article

 

MOLECATCHER; OPINIONS ARE FINE AND WHAT WE ALL HAVE AND THERES NO PORBLEM WITH THAT BUT TO STATE THINGS AS FACT WHEN REALY THEY ARE ONLY NON FACT BASSED OPINIONS THATS A DIFFERANT THING ALL TOGETHER.

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AS for the technicalities of this or that fecking net,...who cares,..lets just get them rabbits well tangled.... :clapper:

 

:clapper:

 

As has been said often enough it doesn't matter how you carry your net in the field, how you set it up or how long it takes - it's where and when that counts ;)

 

Having said that, you're a better netsman if you get to the fields in a Toyota Hilux as apposed to an Escort Estate ;):D

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LONG experience in meeting hundreds of mouchers and rabbiters has taught me that 'fall outs are bound to occur amongst the guys,.and there is precious little one can do to prevent it.. In hindsight,.I have been involved in countless bust-ups and girly arguments ,..that could of so easily been avoided...and I generaly regret shouting my big mouth off....it never realy solves the problem....

And of late, I am beginning to think that we should accept people for what they are.

None of us are angels,...least of all myself...

 

Its a shame more folk dont feel this way

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LONG experience in meeting hundreds of mouchers and rabbiters has taught me that 'fall outs are bound to occur amongst the guys,.and there is precious little one can do to prevent it.. In hindsight,.I have been involved in countless bust-ups and girly arguments ,..that could of so easily been avoided...and I generaly regret shouting my big mouth off....it never realy solves the problem....

And of late, I am beginning to think that we should accept people for what they are.

None of us are angels,...least of all myself...

 

Its a shame more folk dont feel this way

 

i don,t think it matters wether we agree or disagree , the lad is making a living from shows , ferreting , dvd,s , articles and bloody good luck to him , i have always found him polite and willing to spend time talking , if you don,t agree with what he says or writes then pen an article yourself and lets send a hanging party after you, i certainly wouldnt want to stand infront of hundreds of "experts" and give a demo

 

i don,t blame him from leaving the other forum as a while back he got into a debate about ferret finders and in the end some f*****g twat threatened to poison his dog at a show, very brave , he opted to keep his dog rather than win a stupid argument

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LONG experience in meeting hundreds of mouchers and rabbiters has taught me that 'fall outs are bound to occur amongst the guys,.and there is precious little one can do to prevent it.. In hindsight,.I have been involved in countless bust-ups and girly arguments ,..that could of so easily been avoided...and I generaly regret shouting my big mouth off....it never realy solves the problem....

And of late, I am beginning to think that we should accept people for what they are.

None of us are angels,...least of all myself...

 

Its a shame more folk dont feel this way

 

i don,t think it matters wether we agree or disagree , the lad is making a living from shows , ferreting , dvd,s , articles and bloody good luck to him , i have always found him polite and willing to spend time talking , if you don,t agree with what he says or writes then pen an article yourself and lets send a hanging party after you, i certainly wouldnt want to stand infront of hundreds of "experts" and give a demo

 

i don,t blame him from leaving the other forum as a while back he got into a debate about ferret finders and in the end some f*****g twat threatened to poison his dog at a show, very brave , he opted to keep his dog rather than win a stupid argument

 

 

Well said that man... :yes:

 

If anyone has any issues then i am sure the said sporting press would be more than willing to print an article from someone elses point of view. Get writing chaps!! :yes:

I only ever met the chap once but i thought he was a nice guy...

 

At the end of it all......we are all on the same side. 8)

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intresting read,BUT i have just crawled in from the pub a bit worse for ware so i will re read tomrow sober :drink:

my own views, well iv briefley spoke to both mr white u m callim and mole catcher.there is a differents between talking the talk and walking the walk,mr white u m call him sure thinks he can talk the talk :whistling:

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Simon whitehead is a liar.......

 

I am the person he accused of saying id poison his dogs......im disapointed he is going round still saying this happened when it never. ive still got the pm he sent to someone else saying id said this when i NEVER. I spoke to simon on the phone personaly and asked him to explain himself to me. he made his excuses and said to me hed took certain things the wrong way. People who know me personaly would know i think too much of any canine,be it flea ridden or not to ever consider doing what he stated i was gonna do. During our conversation he appologised to me and said it was a misunderstanding [thats if accusing someone of threatening to poison there dogs could ever be a misunderstanding]and it will never be mentioned again.Im a nice guy and gave him the benefit of the doubt! Now someone on here {john Hubery] is quoting his lies...i cant believe it. Simon is obviously more twisted than i ever thought he was??

looks like im gonna have to phone him up and sort it out again cus if hes said this to john hubury..who else has he said it to?.... what is he trying to achieve,..god knows. whether hes actually quoting my name when hes stating this cock and bull story i dont know,..but i am now taking this personaly?

call me what ever you want....but to accuse me of this like he did is the lowest of low.

God im angry.....

 

Lamper :angry:

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Simon whitehead is a liar.......

 

I am the person he accused of saying id poison his dogs......im disapointed he is going round still saying this happened when it never. ive still got the pm he sent to someone else saying id said this when i NEVER. I spoke to simon on the phone personaly and asked him to explain himself to me. he made his excuses and said to me hed took certain things the wrong way. People who know me personaly would know i think too much of any canine,be it flea ridden or not to ever consider doing what he stated i was gonna do. During our conversation he appologised to me and said it was a misunderstanding [thats if accusing someone of threatening to poison there dogs could ever be a misunderstanding]and it will never be mentioned again.Im a nice guy and gave him the benefit of the doubt! Now someone on here {john Hubery] is quoting his lies...i cant believe it. Simon is obviously more twisted than i ever thought he was??

looks like im gonna have to phone him up and sort it out again cus if hes said this to john hubury..who else has he said it to?.... what is he trying to achieve,..god knows. whether hes actually quoting my name when hes stating this cock and bull story i dont know,..but i am now taking this personaly?

call me what ever you want....but to accuse me of this like he did is the lowest of low.

God im angry.....

 

Lamper :angry:

 

 

it wasn,t john hubery that that quoted what was said about the poisoning , it was me, read the posts

 

i was only passing on what was said to me as to the reason he left the forum in question, if i,m wrong then i appologise , it was said to me not long after the time it was supposed to happen ,

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MOLEY... what you see is not always what you get and if i wrote an article on moles and stated as fact something you know thorough experiance to be un-true and simple my opinion would you sit tight lipped? i dont think you would.

 

I never said theres anything wrong with him earning a living from it, far from it as i have spent the last 2 years helping him make that living only to have him through it back in my face. and if you care to read the whole article that he wrote in the cmw you will see that he states as fact opinions of his own. This i find a little hard to swallow as he has never used the trad set nets, and this is by his own admission. Bit like if i was to sit here and say the trammel doesnt catch and hold rabbits, you yourself know they do and you like working them. its the same thing and if you think im being petty than so be it. As for writing an article, who knows maybe i will do just that.

 

and to put an end to it he stated that his article had been butchered and a full apology would be given by The CMW.

This apology consisted of simple the fact they miss quoted a single line. not what i would call a butchered article.

 

 

havn,t read the article at all and fair play , you got a point , if i thought you were talking bullshit , i would say , it just seemed as if it was more of a character assasination than anything else , like i said , he has always bin sound with me and i speak as i find

 

you should write an article , as i would be interested to see how different lads from around the country do different things, even small details can make a big difference, i have had quite a few arguments on here with quite a few lads and maybe i should just shut my big fat mouth , til next time :boxing:

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Well ive spoke to simon about the misunderstanding and he assured me he has never mentioned what he accused me of since we last spoke nearly 2 yrs ago.

He seems to think its other people going over old ground to try to get at him because hes no longer on the net forums in any way or form,

What i think of simon because of what happened ill keep to myself, though i wont let it bother me,water over a bridge, lifes too short and all that blah!

What i will say is if anyone has heard what im suppoesd to of said id do.... ITS ALL LIES!

 

my oppologiies to mr hubury,.. my fault for not reading the thread completely...

 

Lamps

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Well ive spoke to simon about the misunderstanding and he assured me he has never mentioned what he accused me of since we last spoke nearly 2 yrs ago.

He seems to think its other people going over old ground to try to get at him because hes no longer on the net forums in any way or form,

What i think of simon because of what happened ill keep to myself, though i wont let it bother me,water over a bridge, lifes too short and all that blah!

What i will say is if anyone has heard what im suppoesd to of said id do.... ITS ALL LIES!

 

my oppologiies to mr hubury,.. my fault for not reading the thread completely...

 

Lamps

 

i cannot remember the name of the perpertrator as it was a good while ago , i wasnt trying to dig up old greivances , just gave the reasons i was told by the man that he left the forum in question, so long as its sorted

 

this forum is getting way to much for a bloke like me , all sensative like

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Well ive spoke to simon about the misunderstanding and he assured me he has never mentioned what he accused me of since we last spoke nearly 2 yrs ago.

He seems to think its other people going over old ground to try to get at him because hes no longer on the net forums in any way or form,

What i think of simon because of what happened ill keep to myself, though i wont let it bother me,water over a bridge, lifes too short and all that blah!

What i will say is if anyone has heard what im suppoesd to of said id do.... ITS ALL LIES!

 

my oppologiies to mr hubury,.. my fault for not reading the thread completely...

 

Lamps

 

Well said lamper..... :yes:

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