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Oddly enough ( or not ) further education entry for white working class males has fallen off a cliff as has their secondary level outcomes........now, what could possibly be the reason for that?

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Having just got home from a funeral of old teacher, i was wondering if any of you have had good recollections from your past, don't want to know about the bad ones other wise we could be here for eter

Yup witnessed that type of mockery many times wilf Teachers picking out lads and making them the butt  of his jokes. You reminded me about a lad in my class who was obviously poor and wore hand m

That was my experience as well mate, and I was right up for all that. I used to sit next to a really nice lad in English, but he he couldn’t read particularly well and was a bit scruffy......this

Yup witnessed that type of mockery many times wilf Teachers picking out lads and making them the butt  of his jokes.

You reminded me about a lad in my class who was obviously poor and wore hand me downs shoes that really ought to have been in the bin. But remember it was the 80s and most of my mates and people in my class there parents were in the dole.

I was lucky both my parents had good jobs and was spoilt rotten but this particular teacher singled this boy out and constantly made remarks about his attire and even pointed out one day about the dirt on his shirt collar. 

I really felt sorry for him. Told my mum and she said "well go through you're wardrobe there clothes you never wear give him you're blazer you never wear it anyway" 

So pulled him aside next day and on the quite asked if he would want them. I still remember he had tears in his eyes and was also a bit scared I would tell the rest of the school but I assured him it be between us and to pop round at the weekend. 

Years later he became a chef but sadly I heard he committed suicide by jumping in a river.makes you wonder if the humiliation had to endure from that c**t of a teacher was a factor in his later years. 

I hear from folk "schooldays best day of you're life" 

 

UTTER PISH!

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Scot, That’s a really sad story that mate and one I am sure those of us of a certain age have all seen.

It stuck with me and I think it helped make me a better school governor and football coach because you get an understanding that EVERY child matters 1st, 2nd and always.......it’s all about them.

And it also makes you look out for the kid that isn’t the “new trainers, captain of all the teams, family has 2 holidays a year” type kid and work a bit harder with them.

I have kids in my youngsters team who’s parents have committed suicide, little kids, and when they came they were understandably a bit withdrawn.......but I’ve worked tirelessly with them and to see them blossom out again, regain confidence and the shear joy they get from just coming to their football is more reward than an old scallywag like me should ever deserve.

 

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Yea it was not all rosy in the 80s yea that lad had it Rough and put up with some shit. Even shitty school trips he was left as his parents couldn't pay the small fee.

You would think the school would wave it. No they left him sitting alone in a class with the janitor to keep an eye on him. 

Well done you though at doing you're bit for the kids.

I was also expelled not from one but two school's haha.

I wasn't thick was actually pretty good clever wise but hated school and the teachers all they cared about was the wage and the long holidays in proud that I made there life's a misery lol

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8 minutes ago, scothunter said:

Yea it was not all rosy in the 80s yea that lad had it Rough and put up with some shit. Even shitty school trips he was left as his parents couldn't pay the small fee.

You would think the school would wave it. No they left him sitting alone in a class with the janitor to keep an eye on him. 

Well done you though at doing you're bit for the kids.

I was also expelled not from one but two school's haha.

I wasn't thick was actually pretty good clever wise but hated school and the teachers all they cared about was the wage and the long holidays in proud that I made there life's a misery lol

Bloody hell mate, that sounds so familiar.

Me and my pals were always the ones watching the kids from the 2.4 families disappear on the coach to go skiing and what not......my mum was a widow and, like my pals, we didn’t have a pot to piss in really.

And likewise, I took a perverse pleasure in f***ing up the working day of so called “authority figures” who I could actually see were rather small human beings getting it very wrong.

But, I think you should try and take positives from everything and as I say, my perceived injustices then gave me some important lessons for now which hopefully made me a better person?

Who knows.

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1 hour ago, Born Hunter said:

IMO this is now a lie that has been sold to the youth. It'll take a generation to end because it is pushed by a generation who grew up in a time when going to Uni genuinely was an exceptional thing. Since the turn of the century and the rise in equality and social democratic views this thing that was once exceptional is now available to just about everyone and it's really devalued it while at the same time laden folks who really wont benefit from it with tens of thousands of pounds of debt.

Simultaneously though there are now more schemes for vocational training and non conventional training that has meant that a savvy hard working young fella or fella-ette can achieve just as much as an academic.

IMO this old fashioned view that academics are better than non academics is demonstrably false and needs to die out. It'll stop non academics wasting their early career and rightfully increase the value of higher education qualifications again.

Its led to a situation where degrees are the new A levels imo mate. Loads of non specialised jobs out there now require a degree as an entry level qualification, the actual subject  of the degree being an irrelevance to the job in question. Add this to the amount of bullshit degrees that have came about over the last 20 years or so and having a degree is no longer something exceptional. They were offering degrees on David Beckham's hairstyles a few years back I can remember reading, ffs.

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11 hours ago, WILF said:

Oddly enough ( or not ) further education entry for white working class males has fallen off a cliff as has their secondary level outcomes........now, what could possibly be the reason for that?

Brexit.

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I only had one teacher that Inspired me.....Miss Tomlinson

 

Took mi A levels and specifically Georgraphy to spend another 2 years with that pair

 

Probably a 4 out of 10 when I think back but, young dumb and full of cum. Remember when I turned 17 and passed mi test, got a shite car and tried arranging to meet her Hahahaha!

 

f****n daft lad!

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I had a terrific teacher, Des Swords, who taught us chemistry, and was a stand-in history teacher. He had a great shock of curly black hair, and a love of wearing green corduroy suits. He was witty and patient but, instead of just trotting answers out and teaching "parrot fashion", he'd encourage us to think things through and work things out for ourselves. A great teacher and a good man.  Sad to think that he's probably dead now.......

 

At the other end of the scale, my metalwork teacher was an utter c***. Couldn't even be bothered to learn anyone's name, so he just called everyone "laddie" - (no girls in metalwork, back then !)

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20 hours ago, scothunter said:

Yea it was not all rosy in the 80s yea that lad had it Rough and put up with some shit. Even shitty school trips he was left as his parents couldn't pay the small fee.

You would think the school would wave it. No they left him sitting alone in a class with the janitor to keep an eye on him. 

Well done you though at doing you're bit for the kids.

I was also expelled not from one but two school's haha.

I wasn't thick was actually pretty good clever wise but hated school and the teachers all they cared about was the wage and the long holidays in proud that I made there life's a misery lol

I got booted out twice too Scot,  it used to piss the teachers off that I could piss all the tests etc and swots asked me for answers but I just wouldn't do what a c**t 'demanded' I do.

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