Lurcher pup

[socks 32,253]

3 hours ago, Casso said:

The truth of it is most behavioural issues are created by us , 

every pup is an open book to manipulate as we want , too much attention is every bit as bad as too little 

it’s been proven that an hour a day just in its company is plenty on its own 

a pup over stimulated in the home becomes a needy whinny nipping problem as it grows which we then have to confront causing a mayor problem trust wise , 

the bottom line is, every pup is born Social , you don’t need to spent hours kissing and cuddling the pup  because you will  be making a cross for your own back 

every anti christ of a dog I come across was hyper stimulated in the home at an early age , 

you don’t need to confront it for anti social behavior if it doesn’t see the house as a play area in the first  place 

it’s a working animal , the home and garden rest , the field and walks play , it needs to be able to contrast that 

don’t let anyone fool you Trust  is build over time by not having to discipline or confront not by whispering in its ear or patting its head 

when we constantly confront we create issues which may not arise until we ask it to retrieve the real thing in the field , that’s  the tell 

What a load of nonsense there have been countless experiments that prove that pups have no social awareness when born and that we and the dogs parents are key in socialising a pup especially through the neo natal stage of its brain growth ... tell you what spend just an hour a day with a pup as it grows and pen it up for 23 hours a day and see what sort of un siocolised lunatic uncontrollable dog you have when it's 18 months old .......

[jigsaw 11,809]

3 hours ago, Casso said:

The truth of it is most behavioural issues are created by us , 

every pup is an open book to manipulate as we want , too much attention is every bit as bad as too little 

it’s been proven that an hour a day just in its company is plenty on its own 

a pup over stimulated in the home becomes a needy whinny nipping problem as it grows which we then have to confront causing a mayor problem trust wise , 

the bottom line is, every pup is born Social , you don’t need to spent hours kissing and cuddling the pup  because you will  be making a cross for your own back 

every anti christ of a dog I come across was hyper stimulated in the home at an early age , 

you don’t need to confront it for anti social behavior if it doesn’t see the house as a play area in the first  place 

it’s a working animal , the home and garden rest , the field and walks play , it needs to be able to contrast that 

don’t let anyone fool you Trust  is build over time by not having to discipline or confront not by whispering in its ear or patting its head 

when we constantly confront we create issues which may not arise until we ask it to retrieve the real thing in the field , that’s  the tell 

in the name of the lord jaysus ,,what study is that based on...socialising and companionship is fundemental to having a happy calm well balanced worker ...or any family dog for that matter...ive spent every moment i could with my kelpie ,from 8 weeks old to today ,shes now 13 years old..if i didnt have her with me ,the wife or kids did...shes never once acted up,always ready to do whatever is asked of her..your conclusions are dillusions lol

Edited May 16, 2018 by jigsaw

[Gilbey 1,405]

3 hours ago, Casso said:

The truth of it is most behavioural issues are created by us , 

every pup is an open book to manipulate as we want , too much attention is every bit as bad as too little 

it’s been proven that an hour a day just in its company is plenty on its own 

a pup over stimulated in the home becomes a needy whinny nipping problem as it grows which we then have to confront causing a mayor problem trust wise , 

the bottom line is, every pup is born Social , you don’t need to spent hours kissing and cuddling the pup  because you will  be making a cross for your own back 

every anti christ of a dog I come across was hyper stimulated in the home at an early age , 

you don’t need to confront it for anti social behavior if it doesn’t see the house as a play area in the first  place 

it’s a working animal , the home and garden rest , the field and walks play , it needs to be able to contrast that 

don’t let anyone fool you Trust  is build over time by not having to discipline or confront not by whispering in its ear or patting its head 

when we constantly confront we create issues which may not arise until we ask it to retrieve the real thing in the field , that’s  the tell 

believe your interest in this sort of thing started when you got rid of a difficult saluki type, imo that sort simply cant have to much human contact and need to be in the house with you, and out and about with you etc

[Casso 1,256]

8 hours ago, socks said:

What a load of nonsense there have been countless experiments that prove that pups have no social awareness when born and that we and the dogs parents are key in socialising a pup especially through the neo natal stage of its brain growth ... tell you what spend just an hour a day with a pup as it grows and pen it up for 23 hours a day and see what sort of un siocolised lunatic uncontrollable dog you have when it's 18 months old .......

You the lad that pup won’t retrieve? 

Every pup is born social , you visit a vixen and cubs every day and a bitch and her pups every day , do nothing more than sit there 

and after 8 weeks of daily visits , do you believe the fox cubs will run to greet you like the pups will ?

How many hours a day do you need to spend with a pup ? 

A pup can grow up to be completely social in every way not having met a dog or human only interaction with me for its first year because I’ve done it , I’ve a cane Corso / Dogo that met its first dog at roughly 10 months , no problems whatever 

what is the fear ?  You listening / believing people who know f**k all about dogs ,can’t think outside the box 

the biggest issue every dog / owner relationship is fear , lose the fear in the relationship and you get All the dog not a cowering fearful excuse of a dog , 

 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Casso

[Casso 1,256]

7 hours ago, jigsaw said:

in the name of the lord jaysus ,,what study is that based on...socialising and companionship is fundemental to having a happy calm well balanced worker ...or any family dog for that matter...ive spent every moment i could with my kelpie ,from 8 weeks old to today ,shes now 13 years old..if i didnt have her with me ,the wife or kids did...shes never once acted up,always ready to do whatever is asked of her..your conclusions are dillusions lol

Jig you over here ?  Come and visit  , I’m in Wexford 

[socks 32,253]

1 minute ago, Casso said:

You the lad that pup won’t retrieve? 

Every pup is born social , you visit a vixen and cubs every day and a bitch and her pups every day , do nothing more than sit there 

and after 8 weeks of daily visits , do you believe the fox cubs will run to greet you like the pups will ?

How many hours a day do you need to spend with a pup ? 

A pup can grow up to be completely social in every way not having met a dog or human only interaction with me for its first year because I’ve do it , I’ve a cane Corso / Dogo that met its first dog at roughly 10 months , no problems whatever 

what is the fear ?  You listening / believing people who know f**k all about dogs ,can’t think outside the box 

the biggest issue every dog / owner relationship is fear , lose the fear in the relationship and you get All the dog not a cowering fearful excuse of a dog , 

 

Can't train a dog to retrieve ... You've got me mixed up with somebody else fella ... I've been around dogs and studied them all my life ... I've got a degree in canine psychology I've worked dogs with the army and I spend all day every day with dogs and you my good man are talking shit ... trying to compare a fox (vulpine) with a dog (canine) shows how little you know ......

[Casso 1,256]

7 minutes ago, socks said:

Can't train a dog to retrieve ... You've got me mixed up with somebody else fella ... I've been around dogs and studied them all my life ... I've got a degree in canine psychology I've worked dogs with the army and I spend all day every day with dogs and you my good man are talking shit ... trying to compare a fox (vulpine) with a dog (canine) shows how little you know ......

A dog is not born social then? 

The most social animal on earth has to be socialised is that it ? 

Canine  Psychology . 

Canine behavior is based on intention or attraction , what say you smart boy 

[socks 32,253]

2 minutes ago, Casso said:

A dog is not born social then? 

The most social animal on earth has to be socialised is that it ? 

Canine  Psychology . 

Canine behavior is based on intention or attraction , what say you smart boy 

Do a little search mate and see the various experiments that have been done with littersbthat have been split and one half was socialised the other half wasn't ... have a guess what the results were lol ......

[Casso 1,256]

How much socialising does a pup need ? 

You keep believing what they’re telling you mate , I know what works because I’ve been there , your only believing what you’ve been told

you are the bloke with the cowering pup , I’m sure , the one with the crap retrieve 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Casso

[jigsaw 11,809]

39 minutes ago, Casso said:

Jig you over here ?  Come and visit  , I’m in Wexford 

yeah casso,im down in the sunny south east,...well its sunny today anyway..thanks for the invite,,when work drops off(if it ever does ) i will drop ye a line ,,,see how your seasons going 

[Casso 1,256]

1 minute ago, jigsaw said:

yeah casso,im down in the sunny south east,...well its sunny today anyway..thanks for the invite,,when work drops off(if it ever does ) i will drop ye a line ,,,see how your seasons going 

 Not a  bother jig your very welcome I’ll show ya what I’m on about

[jigsaw 11,809]

2 minutes ago, Casso said:

 Not a  bother jig your very welcome I’ll show ya what I’m on about

yeah,always willing to learn..im no rain box when it comes to dogs etc,,just fumbled my way through for the last 30 years lol

[socks 32,253]

2 hours ago, Casso said:

How much socialising does a pup need ? 

You keep believing what they’re telling you mate , I know what works because I’ve been there , your only believing what you’ve been told

you are the bloke with the cowering pup , I’m sure , the one with the crap retrieve 

Yep pure shit my pups retrieve .....

https://youtu.be/HCsnBKHDxGo

[socks 32,253]

And another shit retrieve .......

 

[leegreen 2,098]

A degree in canine psychology eh, well done you sir. 

All I know is you gotta make that pup/dog love you and want to please. My dogs watch my every move, just waiting and thinking "what we doing next Dad"

My pups are with me most of their waking day, not for stimulation or over attention, but more to learn ground rule and manners. Now as Adults I spend 2-3-4 hours a day, every day and more with them. Time with your mutts makes your bond and the older your dog the more bond you have.

Dogs locked in kennels all day are missing out, no matter how much they like sleep 

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