Ptd87 304 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 A lot of my family and friends are city people they have literally no idea about hunting , every single one of them is against it "because of the toff's " ... The same answer every time, doesn't matter what kind of hunting you mention it's the same answer... Rarely does anyone say it's cruel.....People don't even know what hunting is anymore so they just say no 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twobob 1,458 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 hours ago, cragman said: The moor will become a desert full of vermin and riddled with bracken. Wave goodbye to Curlew, plover, pipits and efficient moorland management. Let’s see how long it takes ? Enough about Bradford what about the moor lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,032 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Where's big gay Dave when we need someone to tell us how good labour are? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, stumfelter said: Where's big gay Dave when we need someone to tell us how good labour are? I don't agree with banning shooting on Ilkley Moor so I won't be defending the decision made my Bradford council I've never said I agree with everything all parts of the Labour party do, it's possible to have disagreements in some areas while still supporting the party as a whole 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,961 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 People dictating on issues they know absolutely zilch about , imagine farmer Giles telling Londoners / City dwellers how to go about there way off life !! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,032 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, BGD said: I don't agree with banning shooting on Ilkley Moor so I won't be defending the decision made my Bradford council I've never said I agree with everything all parts of the Labour party do, it's possible to have disagreements in some areas while still supporting the party as a whole So where do you draw the line? If labour said in their manifesto that if they get into office they would ban all fieldsports within that term would you still vote for them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxdropper 17,092 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Should test that resolve by continuing to shoot the moor as per norm . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 26 minutes ago, stumfelter said: So where do you draw the line? If labour said in their manifesto that if they get into office they would ban all fieldsports within that term would you still vote for them? Can't see that happening but aye I probably would depending on the rest of the manifesto, then I'd spend my time lobbying MPs to vote against whatever bill was put forward. I've never been a single issue voter and fieldsports will always be low down on my list of priorities when it comes to choosing who to vote for, there's more important things to consider when it comes to running the country than making sure a hobby I enjoy is a protected IMO. Would you vote for a party that promised to repeal the ban if you strongly disagreed with them in every other area of policy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,637 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 Fieldsports are pretty firmly my highest priority, right after 1) Not a freedom hating communist! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumfelter 3,032 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, BGD said: Can't see that happening but aye I probably would depending on the rest of the manifesto, then I'd spend my time lobbying MPs to vote against whatever bill was put forward. I've never been a single issue voter and fieldsports will always be low down on my list of priorities when it comes to choosing who to vote for, there's more important things to consider when it comes to running the country than making sure a hobby I enjoy is a protected IMO. Would you vote for a party that promised to repeal the ban if you strongly disagreed with them in every other area of policy? As the hunting with dogs act has never affected the types of hunting that I do I'd say no but it depends on what the other areas of policy are. Out of interest which of labour's policies particularly appeal to you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, stumfelter said: As the hunting with dogs act has never affected the types of hunting that I do I'd say no but it depends on what the other areas of policy are. Out of interest which of labour's policies particularly appeal to you? Things like the National Investment Bank, Renationalisation of key industries, building more social housing (even though that would most likely hit me in my pocket!) and just generally the economic plan which is always the main thing I look at when considering who to vote for. Or in short all the things BH would label "freedom hating communist shite" 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rabid 1,936 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 23 minutes ago, BGD said: Can't see that happening but aye I probably would depending on the rest of the manifesto, then I'd spend my time lobbying MPs to vote against whatever bill was put forward. I've never been a single issue voter and fieldsports will always be low down on my list of priorities when it comes to choosing who to vote for, there's more important things to consider when it comes to running the country than making sure a hobby I enjoy is a protected IMO. Would you vote for a party that promised to repeal the ban if you strongly disagreed with them in every other area of policy? Sensible talk on your own opinion, and that's your prerogative, but for some of us it's a lot more than just a hobby, it affects my business, the knock on effect of that is it affects my livelihood, and of course my way of life. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rabid said: Sensible talk on your own opinion, and that's your prerogative, but for some of us it's a lot more than just a hobby, it affects my business, the knock on effect of that is it affects my livelihood, and of course my way of life. That's fair enough and I'd never knock someone for having fieldsports higher on their priority list when it comes to deciding who to vote for. I know for plenty of folk it's right up there at the top and especially for someone in your position that makes perfect sense. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keepitcovert 842 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Share Posted January 22, 2018 One great problem that keeps rearing its ugly head is the lack of unity amongst those that actively take part in various field sports, what chance has the future generation got when the present generation cannot back each other purely because fishing or shooting is not your chosen sport. Of course a labour council will want to ban grouse shooting, their still fighting a bloody class war, while feathering their own nests by kow toeing to ignorant twats that believe the sort of bullshit that the likes of packham and co spout on the box. Look at the boxing day meets and country shows idiots walking round in barbours and green wellies pretending to back fieldsports when most are part time antis with no opinion of their own and know jack shit about the country. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 16 hours ago, BGD said: Things like the National Investment Bank, Renationalisation of key industries, building more social housing (even though that would most likely hit me in my pocket!) and just generally the economic plan which is always the main thing I look at when considering who to vote for. Or in short all the things BH would label "freedom hating communist shite" BUT NONE OF THIS WOULD HAPPEN AS THE COUNTRY WOULD BE BANKRUPT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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