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Holy crap how will we make up the shortfall?

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The situation is real simple, they are our main trade partners and we are one of their main sources of EU revenue. They're the priorities for each side respectively. We could cut a simple deal where we continue to pay every pound we do now for our current level of free access to their market but they won't have it because of their ideology regarding the four freedoms and to a lesser extent who's court has supremacy etc.

As far as I can see, and what I suspected and said well before the referendum, it's a no goer! Loads of folks reckoned the EU would roll over for us "they won't want to loose our money!" but I saw that as probably bollocks right from the start and still do. This is going to get worse before it gets better so for fucks sake lets just get on with it! It's clear that bridge needs burning or we'll never build new ones for worrying if it can be mended up.

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f**k the germans and the french, closed borders or we're out, Merkel wanted migrants, now she can feed them, and if france wants to come the big'un, then we have other ports other than Dover.  We are building houses on food growing land that we need to feed our people, what happens when we have to go cap in hand to buy food from the EU when we can no longer feed our selves, will it be free?   I think not.  The only good thing about losing this battle, is I won't be here to see the results in the future, shame my kids and grand children will.

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If they never attempted to become a superstate using stealth tactics  it would never have come to this, we have been trading in the common market for 40 years, the problems began when people saw the European police force, European army and the unelected government  slowly stealing everyone,s individual identity,  seems they are now slowly waking up to the fact we have poured far more into this massive social experiment than we have ever taken out and they are fecked without us 

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1 hour ago, stumfelter said:

How could the Germans prevent it?

And wouldent that involve meddling in another countries politics 

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A game only works if you play it.  It is that simple.  Money is being made somewhere in all of this.  And that is the name of the came.  Pull out of the EU tomorrow and the world will not stop.  If one thinks that the German Economy is strong then one does not know how things really work.  If one says 2+2= 5   Then it is 5

All the very best

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The EU are only trying to play hardball because they don't want to lose a nett contributor.  If a country that took more than it gave wanted to leave they couldn't care less. 

Note to EU: :feck:

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My first post on this new fangdangled version of the hunting life, can we please vacate the EU and move on, sick and tired of the British media and politics trying to sow seeds of fear . Globalisation has created the worst of capitalism, well off countries have neglected their own for the sake of the rich minority, in an attempt to lower labour costs, you only have to look at America , how they outsourced all their labour, mostly to China and alike, then the recession hit and not only are their own hit twice the Chinese and other impoverished nations are also destitute, all across Europe the same is occurring, labour from poorer countries is flooding in to wealthier countries to bolster the richest , factory owners, farmers , construction , medical all now rely on foreign labour costs, it's divisive and tears families apart, the cost of living in the UK if you're not a property owner and haven't inherited property in extortionate, bills and taxes are ludicrous and immigrant labour has an unprecedented advantage, I live abroad now as I feel I can give my family a better life, and have a good work life balance in a couple of years but I don't begrudge any of the aforementioned other than the top of the chain , who have forgotten any national loyalty, or loyalty to the working class. It's unfortunate that most British are foolish, and trust in the political system,  the EU is trying to emulate the USA , capitalist systems require growth that society cannot provide and the bubble will burst soon enough. I hope that Britain has the balls to take these first steps and realise that in order to move forward in a fair and humane manner we must lead in making changes, we must lose our liberal elitism, take power away from globalisation and media, lose political correctness , speak as it is  and remember what we are and where we came from and where our moral compass should truly point, Atb Joe

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JRM on Hardtalk last night, with his views on Brexit:

 

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