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#16 Greyman

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:27 pm

Since brexit the price of scrap metal has been steadily climbing, I,m a good plasterer and can earn strong money smashing in meters every day, but I,m happy when I,m just trotting round in my truck picking up shit, I can quite easily earn £300 a week with out going mad breaking my back or working 8-12 hr days the dogs can come with me and we can stop for a stroll whenever we want or I can drive through the nearby estate and geta couple of pheasants on my way home, sometimes life is about what makes you happy and it's not usually what earns the most, go and sit in a quiet place and draw yourself two lists one with reasons to stay and one with reasons to get on and see which one is both longer and easier to fill,this will probably be the path you should take but may not be the best earner, you also have the issue of being institutionalised to overcome as one of the hardest things to find when you don't have someone barking orders at you is motivation to get up and get out of the door every morning especially when it's pissing down and dark, good luck which ever way you go and just make sure your doing it for you and not to appease others
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:40 pm

Since brexit the price of scrap metal has been steadily climbing, I,m a good plasterer and can earn strong money smashing in meters every day, but I,m happy when I,m just trotting round in my truck picking up shit, I can quite easily earn £300 a week with out going mad breaking my back or working 8-12 hr days the dogs can come with me and we can stop for a stroll whenever we want or I can drive through the nearby estate and geta couple of pheasants on my way home, sometimes life is about what makes you happy and it's not usually what earns the most, go and sit in a quiet place and draw yourself two lists one with reasons to stay and one with reasons to get on and see which one is both longer and easier to fill,this will probably be the path you should take but may not be the best earner, you also have the issue of being institutionalised to overcome as one of the hardest things to find when you don't have someone barking orders at you is motivation to get up and get out of the door every morning especially when it's pissing down and dark, good luck which ever way you go and just make sure your doing it for you and not to appease others

 
I'm out of likes so have a :thumbs:
 
Absolutely solid advice there.



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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:46 pm

Socks is ex forces but he doesn't like to talk about it.


Oh dear ! He'll have to kill you now !
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 02:51 pm


Back in the late 90s, I worked with a chap who did 12 years in the Parachute regiment. When he came out, he didn't get on very well, so he f***ed off to the Foreign Legion, for a few years !

Made me smile when he said it was "a piece of pi55, f***ing soft ba5tards !"

He was an absolutely sound fella - mad as a box of frogs, and as hard as a coffin nail - but a sound fella !

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 03:04 pm

My reasons to leave are long

I don't feel appreciated at times
The mundane days
The long exercise days
The requirement to put family life on hold as work gas priority
I live a long way from my home town
The dogs etc never fulfilled their potential due to work
The stress it places on my wife , alone and far from her friends family etc
A lack of connection with my first child when she was born I was away most of her first year
"Pfa Monday lads "
The toll it's taken on my limbs and back

The pros?

Quals I wouldn't dream of
Working as part of a tight knit crew
The banter , it's f***ing fierce
The can do attitude
Let's go then!

I've been to countries my friends can't spell,
I've got friends closer to me I've know ten years than the Ines I've know thirty
I wouldn't have met wilf
I wouldn't have met my wife and hence had my kids
When it's been shit and Jpa looks an easy route , I think of two things,

Once in Kenya , on a battlegrouo exetcise , I stood at the back and watched the lads forming up prior to a final attack, in the dusk of an African sunset, seeing paratroopers in scrimmed helmets slowly rise to their get , knackered, exhausted, tanned and fit and saw the chain that we pass on . Through Arnhem, the Falklands, Afghanistan, a brotherhood of men who represent the best of our brigade, sometimes it's hard to put into context but it was timeless scene, no fuvking about, just cohesion, awareness and professional soldiers .

The other is last week I was sat on the back of a chinook, me and a loadie , flying over the carribean sea in the dawn, I'm five hours behind here my mates would be sat in their van in the rain having their elevenses , I was sat with my legs over the edge of an iconic aircraft filming the sea and the damage .

For a boy from a small town, how many of my mates have done that?
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 03:12 pm

If I had read that ten years ago I'd probably have walked a different path. Irrespective, well written.


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 04:35 pm

My reasons to leave are long

I don't feel appreciated at times
The mundane days
The long exercise days
The requirement to put family life on hold as work gas priority
I live a long way from my home town
The dogs etc never fulfilled their potential due to work
The stress it places on my wife , alone and far from her friends family etc
A lack of connection with my first child when she was born I was away most of her first year
"Pfa Monday lads "
The toll it's taken on my limbs and back

The pros?

Quals I wouldn't dream of
Working as part of a tight knit crew
The banter , it's f***ing fierce
The can do attitude
Let's go then!

I've been to countries my friends can't spell,
I've got friends closer to me I've know ten years than the Ines I've know thirty
I wouldn't have met wilf
I wouldn't have met my wife and hence had my kids
When it's been shit and Jpa looks an easy route , I think of two things,

Once in Kenya , on a battlegrouo exetcise , I stood at the back and watched the lads forming up prior to a final attack, in the dusk of an African sunset, seeing paratroopers in scrimmed helmets slowly rise to their get , knackered, exhausted, tanned and fit and saw the chain that we pass on . Through Arnhem, the Falklands, Afghanistan, a brotherhood of men who represent the best of our brigade, sometimes it's hard to put into context but it was timeless scene, no fuvking about, just cohesion, awareness and professional soldiers .

The other is last week I was sat on the back of a chinook, me and a loadie , flying over the carribean sea in the dawn, I'm five hours behind here my mates would be sat in their van in the rain having their elevenses , I was sat with my legs over the edge of an iconic aircraft filming the sea and the damage .

For a boy from a small town, how many of my mates have done that?


Class post and well done , this country should do far more for its ex service men n women, at times they called on too give their all for us , the level of personal sacrifice given by so many is unreal, and very little in return when they leave, needs addressing asap , should come out too a house and chance of fully paid further education or entry level into a decent paid trade or career imho
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Posted 03 October 2017 - 06:57 pm

Sorry for the delay guys been stagging on. Appreciate all the input from you all. I'm 28 so i prefer listening to people wiser than me. I know how you mean about being from a small town and seeing things nobody else has. Considering i left school with feck all and have Asperger's syndrome i managed to do alright to get where i am now, own house, car fully paid for, so for sure i see the benefits. I just get moments where i wonder have i got another 12 in me or am i missing out at home. As for sitting in the rain outside elevens' surely you don't mean the one in north camp mate haha? What a small world. All my old teenage friends are still,doing the same your right. I just get down in the dumps sometimes when the bullshit comes down, but we are all in the same boat.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:38 pm

My reasons to leave are long

I don't feel appreciated at times
The mundane days
The long exercise days
The requirement to put family life on hold as work gas priority
I live a long way from my home town
The dogs etc never fulfilled their potential due to work
The stress it places on my wife , alone and far from her friends family etc
A lack of connection with my first child when she was born I was away most of her first year
"Pfa Monday lads "
The toll it's taken on my limbs and back

The pros?

Quals I wouldn't dream of
Working as part of a tight knit crew
The banter , it's f***ing fierce
The can do attitude
Let's go then!

I've been to countries my friends can't spell,
I've got friends closer to me I've know ten years than the Ines I've know thirty
I wouldn't have met wilf
I wouldn't have met my wife and hence had my kids
When it's been shit and Jpa looks an easy route , I think of two things,

Once in Kenya , on a battlegrouo exetcise , I stood at the back and watched the lads forming up prior to a final attack, in the dusk of an African sunset, seeing paratroopers in scrimmed helmets slowly rise to their get , knackered, exhausted, tanned and fit and saw the chain that we pass on . Through Arnhem, the Falklands, Afghanistan, a brotherhood of men who represent the best of our brigade, sometimes it's hard to put into context but it was timeless scene, no fuvking about, just cohesion, awareness and professional soldiers .

The other is last week I was sat on the back of a chinook, me and a loadie , flying over the carribean sea in the dawn, I'm five hours behind here my mates would be sat in their van in the rain having their elevenses , I was sat with my legs over the edge of an iconic aircraft filming the sea and the damage .

For a boy from a small town, how many of my mates have done that?

ffs i was there with you till you mention wilf


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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:39 pm

My reasons to leave are long
I don't feel appreciated at times
The mundane days
The long exercise days
The requirement to put family life on hold as work gas priority
I live a long way from my home town
The dogs etc never fulfilled their potential due to work
The stress it places on my wife , alone and far from her friends family etc
A lack of connection with my first child when she was born I was away most of her first year
"Pfa Monday lads "
The toll it's taken on my limbs and back
The pros?
Quals I wouldn't dream of
Working as part of a tight knit crew
The banter , it's f***ing fierce
The can do attitude
Let's go then!
I've been to countries my friends can't spell,
I've got friends closer to me I've know ten years than the Ines I've know thirty
I wouldn't have met wilf
I wouldn't have met my wife and hence had my kids
When it's been shit and Jpa looks an easy route , I think of two things,
Once in Kenya , on a battlegrouo exetcise , I stood at the back and watched the lads forming up prior to a final attack, in the dusk of an African sunset, seeing paratroopers in scrimmed helmets slowly rise to their get , knackered, exhausted, tanned and fit and saw the chain that we pass on . Through Arnhem, the Falklands, Afghanistan, a brotherhood of men who represent the best of our brigade, sometimes it's hard to put into context but it was timeless scene, no fuvking about, just cohesion, awareness and professional soldiers .
The other is last week I was sat on the back of a chinook, me and a loadie , flying over the carribean sea in the dawn, I'm five hours behind here my mates would be sat in their van in the rain having their elevenses , I was sat with my legs over the edge of an iconic aircraft filming the sea and the damage .
For a boy from a small town, how many of my mates have done that?

ffs i was there with you till you mention wilf
Hahaha haha that made me chuckle haha

Edited by W. Katchum, 03 October 2017 - 07:40 pm.

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Posted 03 October 2017 - 07:43 pm

My reasons to leave are long
I don't feel appreciated at times
The mundane days
The long exercise days
The requirement to put family life on hold as work gas priority
I live a long way from my home town
The dogs etc never fulfilled their potential due to work
The stress it places on my wife , alone and far from her friends family etc
A lack of connection with my first child when she was born I was away most of her first year
"Pfa Monday lads "
The toll it's taken on my limbs and back
The pros?
Quals I wouldn't dream of
Working as part of a tight knit crew
The banter , it's f***ing fierce
The can do attitude
Let's go then!
I've been to countries my friends can't spell,
I've got friends closer to me I've know ten years than the Ines I've know thirty
I wouldn't have met wilf
I wouldn't have met my wife and hence had my kids
When it's been shit and Jpa looks an easy route , I think of two things,
Once in Kenya , on a battlegrouo exetcise , I stood at the back and watched the lads forming up prior to a final attack, in the dusk of an African sunset, seeing paratroopers in scrimmed helmets slowly rise to their get , knackered, exhausted, tanned and fit and saw the chain that we pass on . Through Arnhem, the Falklands, Afghanistan, a brotherhood of men who represent the best of our brigade, sometimes it's hard to put into context but it was timeless scene, no fuvking about, just cohesion, awareness and professional soldiers .
The other is last week I was sat on the back of a chinook, me and a loadie , flying over the carribean sea in the dawn, I'm five hours behind here my mates would be sat in their van in the rain having their elevenses , I was sat with my legs over the edge of an iconic aircraft filming the sea and the damage .
For a boy from a small town, how many of my mates have done that?


Fukc sake you will have me drying my eyes in a minuet ... stop being so romantic get your ICFT done drop yourself in a chest height water filled trench with a cold bag of compo and get ready for a 2am to 4am stag lol .........
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Posted 04 October 2017 - 05:29 am

Just to add, one of my very closest pals is a serving soldier with over 10 years service and obviously we have had this very conversation a couple of time because everyone gets the blues.
He is a NCO, has multiple tours and combat experience under his belt, he is a really uptogether lad who gets to ply his trade and live his life amongst other very uptogether lads.
He has travelled all over the world and still does doing things of real benefit in the places he operates.
I know a life back in civvy street amongst a load of mongs would break a lad like him.......it would drive him f***ing mental !
He lives in a nice place, his camp is state of the art with facilities.
Where you going to get that ?
Sometimes the grass isn't always greener, sure you have to put up with bullshit but that isn't the sole domain of the army........that's happens everywhere.

then reality sets in when he finally comes out into the real world :thumbs: ,but having said that some adapt better than others  thats just the way it works
In my limited experience lads who had done say 20 years get on a lot better than lads who have done say 3 or 5.
They just seem more relaxed and able to cope.......they know who they are and what they want to do.

I used to do a lot of work in the ABF head office and most of the lads I bumped into there had long terms of service before leaving.......they were great lads to work with.
They had pensions behind them, were pretty set up and had the confidence of age to see what they could bring to the party with the skill set they already had.
All the younger blokes I have ever met have struggled.
I'd agree with that socks, I know a lot of experience forces living in Plymouth as we have army and navy here. I've worked with a lot of them and the lads that did a long time and have their pensions are disciplined, reliable and hard working. A lot of the lads that did only a few years are absolute wreck heads that can't be relied on personally or for work

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Posted 04 October 2017 - 07:13 am

I do notice a lot of  x army folks are financially setup with a nice house and a pension. If you are there all ready I would stick it out and get that sorted then you can relax and enjoy the rest of your life. Good luck what ever you do  



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Posted 04 October 2017 - 08:38 am

My reasons to leave are long
I don't feel appreciated at times
The mundane days
The long exercise days
The requirement to put family life on hold as work gas priority
I live a long way from my home town
The dogs etc never fulfilled their potential due to work
The stress it places on my wife , alone and far from her friends family etc
A lack of connection with my first child when she was born I was away most of her first year
"Pfa Monday lads "
The toll it's taken on my limbs and back
The pros?
Quals I wouldn't dream of
Working as part of a tight knit crew
The banter , it's f***ing fierce
The can do attitude
Let's go then!
I've been to countries my friends can't spell,
I've got friends closer to me I've know ten years than the Ines I've know thirty
I wouldn't have met wilf
I wouldn't have met my wife and hence had my kids
When it's been shit and Jpa looks an easy route , I think of two things,
Once in Kenya , on a battlegrouo exetcise , I stood at the back and watched the lads forming up prior to a final attack, in the dusk of an African sunset, seeing paratroopers in scrimmed helmets slowly rise to their get , knackered, exhausted, tanned and fit and saw the chain that we pass on . Through Arnhem, the Falklands, Afghanistan, a brotherhood of men who represent the best of our brigade, sometimes it's hard to put into context but it was timeless scene, no fuvking about, just cohesion, awareness and professional soldiers .
The other is last week I was sat on the back of a chinook, me and a loadie , flying over the carribean sea in the dawn, I'm five hours behind here my mates would be sat in their van in the rain having their elevenses , I was sat with my legs over the edge of an iconic aircraft filming the sea and the damage .
For a boy from a small town, how many of my mates have done that?


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Posted 04 October 2017 - 01:44 pm

Arctic raised a relevant point , about looking after squaddies when they leave

Whilst that's an admirable notion, I'm a firm believer in standing on your own two feet

I bought a house at 18, my mams council house and she still lives there . It's not the smartest house in the world but it's bricks and mortar three bed semi .

I have a small runaround car , I have two kids, I can barely afford a night out once a month for me and the wife together do guess what? We don't go

I have a dog, ferrets, sky , mobile phones etc all the necessary items in a modern world

What I haven't done is spend twenty years in the army filling my house with tellies 3 inches bigger than the meighbours , spending 500 on a brand new car on high interest never never, have every gadget under the sun, take my kids nowhere, then suddenly realuse that you've got two years left, nowhere to live, no real quals I can transfer,

This happens time and time again , I see it all the time

Cannot understand why people do it. They expect the world to owe them a living when they leave, their is a scheme at work where you can borrow a deposit for you first home on a minimal loan payback that's taken from your pension. This can be applied for and granted up to your final day of service . Infuriatingly as I have squirrelled away and saved and made good choices early on, I'm not applicable for it, as in I can't have it , which would put me mortgage free

But dickhead whose pissed twenty four years wages up the wall can

Never get taken in by this "we owe our veterans"

I intend to leave with professional engineering qualifications, I want to make it impossible for people not to employ me.

It really makes you wonder what soldiers do with that income whennin reality it's acquired thorough an inversely tangible amount of work ?
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