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Riohog you think the bull shit is as bad on civvy street? I know what you mean i left school with bugger all and i got a house with not a great deal left to pay, save my money and I'm pretty switched on about the bigger picture. I know what you mean you do get a few twats but there's some top blokes aswell. I guess its a case sometimes of is the grass greener and listening to all the lads that are out, however I've seen a few re join over the last few years.

yep it happens for sure some can handle civvy st and some just cant and go back to were they feel safe as daft as it sounds different kind of bllshit mate ,more silly noncence than bull

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My reasons to leave are long   I don't feel appreciated at times The mundane days The long exercise days The requirement to put family life on hold as work gas priority I live a long way from

Since brexit the price of scrap metal has been steadily climbing, I,m a good plasterer and can earn strong money smashing in meters every day, but I,m happy when I,m just trotting round in my truck pi

Arctic raised a relevant point , about looking after squaddies when they leave   Whilst that's an admirable notion, I'm a firm believer in standing on your own two feet   I bought a house at 18

 

 

Arctic raised a relevant point , about looking after squaddies when they leave

Whilst that's an admirable notion, I'm a firm believer in standing on your own two feet

I bought a house at 18, my mams council house and she still lives there . It's not the smartest house in the world but it's bricks and mortar three bed semi .

I have a small runaround car , I have two kids, I can barely afford a night out once a month for me and the wife together do guess what? We don't go

I have a dog, ferrets, sky , mobile phones etc all the necessary items in a modern world

What I haven't done is spend twenty years in the army filling my house with tellies 3 inches bigger than the meighbours , spending 500 on a brand new car on high interest never never, have every gadget under the sun, take my kids nowhere, then suddenly realuse that you've got two years left, nowhere to live, no real quals I can transfer,

This happens time and time again , I see it all the time

Cannot understand why people do it. They expect the world to owe them a living when they leave, their is a scheme at work where you can borrow a deposit for you first home on a minimal loan payback that's taken from your pension. This can be applied for and granted up to your final day of service . Infuriatingly as I have squirrelled away and saved and made good choices early on, I'm not applicable for it, as in I can't have it , which would put me mortgage free

But dickhead whose pissed twenty four years wages up the wall can

Never get taken in by this "we owe our veterans"

I intend to leave with professional engineering qualifications, I want to make it impossible for people not to employ me.

It really makes you wonder what soldiers do with that income whennin reality it's acquired thorough an inversely tangible amount of work ?

My brother says the same. He's done army, foreign legion then marines and he has no time for alot of the ex army sob stories. The switched on lads use their time buying a house, investments and qualifications....they serve their time with an evolving plan for when they leave.

Anyone who has been in a port town when a navy ship is in dock will know that the forces are full of nob heads who if they weren't serving would just be drifting and getting in shit.

That's not taking anything away from those who serve or failing to realise some veterans need help and support.

Edited to say I'm not calling our forces nob heads! I've lots of friends and family who are or have served and I support them unreservedly. And admit I wish I'd had the balls

What makes them knob heads ??? .......

The fact every time a ship leaves port it leaves a load of em in the local nick!?

 

I used the wrong turn of phrase! I was just echoing alot of armed forces personnel that the forces can offer a good future once you leave....you just have to have the intelligence to set yourself up and plan forward. I know a lot of balloon heads that have joined up....they had nowt when they joined and will have nothing when they leave.

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Arctic raised a relevant point , about looking after squaddies when they leave

Whilst that's an admirable notion, I'm a firm believer in standing on your own two feet

I bought a house at 18, my mams council house and she still lives there . It's not the smartest house in the world but it's bricks and mortar three bed semi .

I have a small runaround car , I have two kids, I can barely afford a night out once a month for me and the wife together do guess what? We don't go

I have a dog, ferrets, sky , mobile phones etc all the necessary items in a modern world

What I haven't done is spend twenty years in the army filling my house with tellies 3 inches bigger than the meighbours , spending 500 on a brand new car on high interest never never, have every gadget under the sun, take my kids nowhere, then suddenly realuse that you've got two years left, nowhere to live, no real quals I can transfer,

This happens time and time again , I see it all the time

Cannot understand why people do it. They expect the world to owe them a living when they leave, their is a scheme at work where you can borrow a deposit for you first home on a minimal loan payback that's taken from your pension. This can be applied for and granted up to your final day of service . Infuriatingly as I have squirrelled away and saved and made good choices early on, I'm not applicable for it, as in I can't have it , which would put me mortgage free

But dickhead whose pissed twenty four years wages up the wall can

Never get taken in by this "we owe our veterans"

I intend to leave with professional engineering qualifications, I want to make it impossible for people not to employ me.

It really makes you wonder what soldiers do with that income whennin reality it's acquired thorough an inversely tangible amount of work ?

My brother says the same. He's done army, foreign legion then marines and he has no time for alot of the ex army sob stories. The switched on lads use their time buying a house, investments and qualifications....they serve their time with an evolving plan for when they leave.

Anyone who has been in a port town when a navy ship is in dock will know that the forces are full of nob heads who if they weren't serving would just be drifting and getting in shit.

That's not taking anything away from those who serve or failing to realise some veterans need help and support.

Edited to say I'm not calling our forces nob heads! I've lots of friends and family who are or have served and I support them unreservedly. And admit I wish I'd had the balls

What makes them knob heads ??? .......

The fact every time a ship leaves port it leaves a load of em in the local nick!

 

I used the wrong turn of phrase! I was just echoing alot of armed forces personnel that the forces can offer a good future once you leave....you just have to have the intelligence to set yourself up and plan forward. I know a lot of balloon heads that have joined up....they had nowt when they joined and will have nothing when they leave.

 

but that is the case in most walks of life not just the forces

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Arctic raised a relevant point , about looking after squaddies when they leave

Whilst that's an admirable notion, I'm a firm believer in standing on your own two feet

I bought a house at 18, my mams council house and she still lives there . It's not the smartest house in the world but it's bricks and mortar three bed semi .

I have a small runaround car , I have two kids, I can barely afford a night out once a month for me and the wife together do guess what? We don't go

I have a dog, ferrets, sky , mobile phones etc all the necessary items in a modern world

What I haven't done is spend twenty years in the army filling my house with tellies 3 inches bigger than the meighbours , spending 500 on a brand new car on high interest never never, have every gadget under the sun, take my kids nowhere, then suddenly realuse that you've got two years left, nowhere to live, no real quals I can transfer,

This happens time and time again , I see it all the time

Cannot understand why people do it. They expect the world to owe them a living when they leave, their is a scheme at work where you can borrow a deposit for you first home on a minimal loan payback that's taken from your pension. This can be applied for and granted up to your final day of service . Infuriatingly as I have squirrelled away and saved and made good choices early on, I'm not applicable for it, as in I can't have it , which would put me mortgage free

But dickhead whose pissed twenty four years wages up the wall can

Never get taken in by this "we owe our veterans"

I intend to leave with professional engineering qualifications, I want to make it impossible for people not to employ me.

It really makes you wonder what soldiers do with that income whennin reality it's acquired thorough an inversely tangible amount of work ?

My brother says the same. He's done army, foreign legion then marines and he has no time for alot of the ex army sob stories. The switched on lads use their time buying a house, investments and qualifications....they serve their time with an evolving plan for when they leave.

Anyone who has been in a port town when a navy ship is in dock will know that the forces are full of nob heads who if they weren't serving would just be drifting and getting in shit.

That's not taking anything away from those who serve or failing to realise some veterans need help and support.

Edited to say I'm not calling our forces nob heads! I've lots of friends and family who are or have served and I support them unreservedly. And admit I wish I'd had the balls

What makes them knob heads ??? .......
The fact every time a ship leaves port it leaves a load of em in the local nick!

 

I used the wrong turn of phrase! I was just echoing alot of armed forces personnel that the forces can offer a good future once you leave....you just have to have the intelligence to set yourself up and plan forward. I know a lot of balloon heads that have joined up....they had nowt when they joined and will have nothing when they leave.

but that is the case in most walks of life not just the forces

Yep ?

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Arctic raised a relevant point , about looking after squaddies when they leave

Whilst that's an admirable notion, I'm a firm believer in standing on your own two feet

I bought a house at 18, my mams council house and she still lives there . It's not the smartest house in the world but it's bricks and mortar three bed semi .

I have a small runaround car , I have two kids, I can barely afford a night out once a month for me and the wife together do guess what? We don't go

I have a dog, ferrets, sky , mobile phones etc all the necessary items in a modern world

What I haven't done is spend twenty years in the army filling my house with tellies 3 inches bigger than the meighbours , spending 500 on a brand new car on high interest never never, have every gadget under the sun, take my kids nowhere, then suddenly realuse that you've got two years left, nowhere to live, no real quals I can transfer,

This happens time and time again , I see it all the time

Cannot understand why people do it. They expect the world to owe them a living when they leave, their is a scheme at work where you can borrow a deposit for you first home on a minimal loan payback that's taken from your pension. This can be applied for and granted up to your final day of service . Infuriatingly as I have squirrelled away and saved and made good choices early on, I'm not applicable for it, as in I can't have it , which would put me mortgage free

But dickhead whose pissed twenty four years wages up the wall can

Never get taken in by this "we owe our veterans"

I intend to leave with professional engineering qualifications, I want to make it impossible for people not to employ me.

It really makes you wonder what soldiers do with that income whennin reality it's acquired thorough an inversely tangible amount of work ?

My brother says the same. He's done army, foreign legion then marines and he has no time for alot of the ex army sob stories. The switched on lads use their time buying a house, investments and qualifications....they serve their time with an evolving plan for when they leave.

Anyone who has been in a port town when a navy ship is in dock will know that the forces are full of nob heads who if they weren't serving would just be drifting and getting in shit.

That's not taking anything away from those who serve or failing to realise some veterans need help and support.

Edited to say I'm not calling our forces nob heads! I've lots of friends and family who are or have served and I support them unreservedly. And admit I wish I'd had the balls

What makes them knob heads ??? .......
The fact every time a ship leaves port it leaves a load of em in the local nick!

 

I used the wrong turn of phrase! I was just echoing alot of armed forces personnel that the forces can offer a good future once you leave....you just have to have the intelligence to set yourself up and plan forward. I know a lot of balloon heads that have joined up....they had nowt when they joined and will have nothing when they leave.

but that is the case in most walks of life not just the forces

Yep

 

mate the avarage squaddi or matelot that has been away for months and comes home has two things on his mind sex and booze maybe a few tatts ,maybe not in that order but thats how it is lol i dont remember sieng many go down the library when the y got back ..lol

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This is the problem civilians will never ever even come close to imagining what young service personnel experience on an operational tour but they are expected to blend straight back into society and not get into any trouble when they first get home .... totally unrealistic ... you don't go from fighting for your life on a daily basis to quietly sitting in a pub having a beer over night ........

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i remember i think it was 42 comado stonehouse barracks guzz coming back from a tour in northern ireland in the 70,s the fkn ripped plymouth to pieces ,next day they were ordered to march through the town to apolagise , ,from then on i believe they were sent straight home after tour instead of barracks , these men were wound up to fk after being bombed shot at and verbaly abused you just dont switch off that quick

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i remember i think it was 42 comado stonehouse barracks guzz coming back from a tour in northern ireland in the 70,s the fkn ripped plymouth to pieces ,next day they were ordered to march through the town to apolagise , ,from then on i believe they were sent straight home after tour instead of barracks , these men were wound up to fk after being bombed shot at and verbaly abused you just dont switch off that quick

dont know if it still happens but up in faslane base when the guys came back after 3 4 months on the nuke boats they were in the hooley bar in the base door closed and they gave it fk all all night to wind down . lots of places the same you got to decompress and get back to the real world

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This is the problem civilians will never ever even come close to imagining what young service personnel experience on an operational tour but they are expected to blend straight back into society and not get into any trouble when they first get home .... totally unrealistic ... you don't go from fighting for your life on a daily basis to quietly sitting in a pub having a beer over night ........

Must depend on the individual though socks? Though I'm sure you basically right. My old school mate went into the Royal Marines, done his active tours. He was a very well balanced individual before he went in & came out the same as far as I could tell. He now teaches at our old high school, he's a cracking lad actually.....:-)

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I'd guess that personalities are exactly the same in the forces as in civilian life.......if you are a waster, or a drama queen or a cry baby or a level headed type that takes things in their stride then that's what you will be.

 

Sometimes I think the British nation has watched to many American war films where is all "turmoil and tears and pain of the tortured hero".........f**k all that, have a cup of tea and crack on......

 

One day they will make a truly British war film where two Tommies are in a field surrounded by dead comrades and as the smoke clears one will turn to the other and say "f**k me, that was close......I nearly shit my trousers ......stick the kettle on !"

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I'd guess that personalities are exactly the same in the forces as in civilian life.......if you are a waster, or a drama queen or a cry baby or a level headed type that takes things in their stride then that's what you will be.

 

Sometimes I think the British nation has watched to many American war films where is all "turmoil and tears and pain of the tortured hero".........f**k all that, have a cup of tea and crack on......

 

One day they will make a truly British war film where two Tommies are in a field surrounded by dead comrades and as the smoke clears one will turn to the other and say "f**k me, that was close......I nearly shit my trousers ......stick the kettle on !"

think its a case of the brit lads just dont say much and tell the stories of whatever when out there mates probebly just wouldnt believe them they just get on with it the yanks do like the drama ..

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