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That's plaza cataluya, in the city centre mate. My daughter and Mrs were on about going out into the city, to a nice bar, real ales etc....

 

Not a fuucking sniff ladies!

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The daughter is in, the dog is walked....

 

I'm having a beer at a bar, watching from a safe distance 😁

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Bet your bollocks to a barn dance that Brussels will have been on the blower to the Spanish government and said "Quash this with all means possible, we can't afford to have Catalonia bug out" ;)

 

EU government freedom and democracy at its very best !!

 

May has been given her script too, she will be sticking to that for as long as the traitorous witch lasts in office!

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This shows the fragility of democracy and the threat of totalitarianism. It's there, waiting for enough citizens to let their guard down with the attitude "that sort of stuff is in the past and we have 'progressed' beyond that".

 

Too many young folk today just think that the freedoms, rights and fairplay of liberal democracy are a god given state of society. Stuff like this cost blood and sometimes lives but it should be a constant reminder. Repress these issues and they WILL escalate with a much greater cost.

 

In the wise words of another member of this forum, "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance".

 

On another note, has Brexit been a factor in this?

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Fair play to the Catalans, I like what I'm seeing.

Despite all the heavy handed brutality they went out and did it.

 

If that had been the UK, there would have been no need for Police violence......they would have simply threatened everyone with a fixed penalty ticket or a court fine and everyone would have crawled back under their stone and kept their head down !!

 

In fact, May and her Cancer party just robbed the country of Brexit and nobody batted an eyelid !

 

Who would have thought old Jonny Foreigner would be show the bollocks England now lacks?

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Interesting read;

 

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4581/barcelona-mega-mosque

 

Catalonia has the highest concentration of muslims in Spain, Approx 465,000 who've been promised a mega mosque if they vote for independence.

 

1 muslim leader stated if independence was ever won they (the muslims) would then vote for pro islamic partys

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Interesting read;

 

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4581/barcelona-mega-mosque

 

Catalonia has the highest concentration of muslims in Spain, Approx 465,000 who've been promised a mega mosque if they vote for independence.

 

1 muslim leader stated if independence was ever won they (the muslims) would then vote for pro islamic partys

I'm not rubbishing the article but I would take an article written by an organisation run by and American Multi millionaire airess to a fortune who's ambassador is a republican career politician with a large pinch of salt.

We have seen what a reliable job the US has made in other Muslim related stories it puts out ;)

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Catalonia was just a glimpse of the new world we are wakening up to. Police now a days do not seem to be human beings.. they were sent in to beat and abuse people who were just going to put an x on a ballott paper.. non violent folk who were excercising there right to vote ... i seen the minority beating on the majority and its not even that big of news.. major cities throughout europe and uk will see the same..very very soon...orwells 1984 is fast approaching in 2017.. we will soon be waking up to military boots standing on your face and it will sadly become the norm..the sheeple are well and truly being rounded up and took to the slaughter house...time to rise up.

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I cant vouch for the validity of the article but Im a sort of "no smoke without fire" type of bloke, even if its only wishful thinking by the muslims, imagine if London or Birmingham decided to break away from the UK how long would it be before they were islamic states.

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Fair point Baker boy

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This shows the fragility of democracy and the threat of totalitarianism. It's there, waiting for enough citizens to let their guard down with the attitude "that sort of stuff is in the past and we have 'progressed' beyond that".

 

Too many young folk today just think that the freedoms, rights and fairplay of liberal democracy are a god given state of society. Stuff like this cost blood and sometimes lives but it should be a constant reminder. Repress these issues and they WILL escalate with a much greater cost.

 

In the wise words of another member of this forum, "the price of freedom is eternal vigilance".

 

On another note, has Brexit been a factor in this?

was in the region last week, they were calling it their Brexit.

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