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#1 Dan McDonough

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 05:28 pm

I want to trap some pigeons for working the dogs.  It's perfectly legal to bat them over here as they are not protected.  Any advice on the best attractant bait for pigeons?  Keep in mind there are piles of corn and other things around every farm here and I'll need something that really draws them in.



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Posted 26 September 2017 - 05:46 pm

Dan. Can you explain exactly what you mean by pigeons to train dogs. I think I'm right in saying that over here we use dead pigeons on cold game tests and the like. These have been shot under normal circumstances is decoying, roosting etc. What does one do with live birds? Jok.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:38 pm

Fold them up in their wings and plant them in a bush.  Bring the dog through and let them find it.  Nudge the bird with your foot and it flies off.  Shoot it and the dog retrieves.

 

I spent a few years training bird dogs.  I spent 7 years living on a hunt club that sold around 30K pheasants, chucker's and quail each year.  I've planted birds for 1000 bird hunts all the way down to 1 bird.  I'm a pretty fair hand with folding up birds and know how to keep them.  I know how to catch them a few at a time, like when birds escape from the pen or scratch birds come back to the pen but I'm no expert at going out and catching a lot of them from the wild. 

 

I would like to know what pigeons go absolutely nuts for as far as food.



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Posted 26 September 2017 - 07:45 pm

Most over here use decoys and spinners to shoot them, I wouldn't know how to bait them, here they're generally on cereal crops or hitting clover, sometimes see them in numbers on grit. Probably a case of building up a feeding station until you eventually have numbers worth trapping? Is it feasible to take squabs out of nests? I've seen some great pointer training videos using pigeons in this way, Atb Joe

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 08:35 pm

Big cage trap and leave some females in there with plenty of white on as decoys.

#6 Dan McDonough

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 12:39 am

Big cage trap and leave some females in there with plenty of white on as decoys.

I'll throw that in the plan, thanks.



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 12:35 pm

A ladder trap will trap plenty of pigeons but you have to make the other food sources hard to get and put grain in the trap.

Folding a birds head under it's wing is done by some pointer men over this side of the world but the bird isn't shot.

It's not really a sporting thing to do IMO.



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Posted 27 September 2017 - 12:44 pm

If by corn you mean wheat try maize. If you already mean maize then theres not much they prefer




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