Trout Fishing: How Much Kit Do You Carry?

[Lenmcharristar 9,172]

Did you miniaturise the flying c? I find black with gold or copper blade is lethal

[neil r 1,795]

There's a few lures made on that principle now like the savage gear line thrus and mr whiggly . It's a good way of doing it although it's mainly done on the line thrus and whigglys to protect the soft plastic from getting ripped up . I've had Toby's in the past but never had a fish on them but then again I hardly used them so it was a viscous circle . How do you find the hook up ratio with them rapalas , ive seen it said on other forums that they are poor hookers . Can't really see it myself because the back treble is free and they are not a big deep sided lure .

[lifelong cumbrian 1,789]

There's a few lures made on that principle now like the savage gear line thrus and mr whiggly . It's a good way of doing it although it's mainly done on the line thrus and whigglys to protect the soft plastic from getting ripped up . I've had Toby's in the past but never had a fish on them but then again I hardly used them so it was a viscous circle . How do you find the hook up ratio with them rapalas , ive seen it said on other forums that they are poor hookers . Can't really see it myself because the back treble is free and they are not a big deep sided lure .

I find the rapala ok for hooking, some rivers i fish you can only use 1 treble, i would leave the rear one on in that situation. I think any baits you use you have to have confidence in them, i personally have never touched a fish on a tazmanian devil, i know lots of people like them.

[lifelong cumbrian 1,789]

Did you miniaturise the flying c? I find black with gold or copper blade is lethal

You can buy the parts for the condoms in smaller versions, you can buy them about that size as well. I make my own spoons as well and rig them on a weak link.

[neil r 1,795]

I've got rapala j-13's , dt-4's and shad raps and not had any problems hooking up with them . I'd love to know what people are doing with them to not hook up properly although I suspect their hooks might need a bit of a tickle . Your right about having confidence in lures . One of my favourite pike lures is the squirrely burt but if you Google them you will see they are a marmite lure , some people just can't get a fish on them and others get loads

[lifelong cumbrian 1,789]

There's a few lures made on that principle now like the savage gear line thrus and mr whiggly . It's a good way of doing it although it's mainly done on the line thrus and whigglys to protect the soft plastic from getting ripped up . I've had Toby's in the past but never had a fish on them but then again I hardly used them so it was a viscous circle . How do you find the hook up ratio with them rapalas , ive seen it said on other forums that they are poor hookers . Can't really see it myself because the back treble is free and they are not a big deep sided lure .

Personally with the rapala i think the fish hit them really hard and i have my drag set very soft so the fish can draw a bit of line off the drag as i hit it, otherwise i think the tear the hook hold out.

[Pete E 1]

lifelong cumbrian, on 11 Jan 2017 - 10:42 PM, said:

 

neil r, on 11 Jan 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

There's a few lures made on that principle now like the savage gear line thrus and mr whiggly . It's a good way of doing it although it's mainly done on the line thrus and whigglys to protect the soft plastic from getting ripped up . I've had Toby's in the past but never had a fish on them but then again I hardly used them so it was a viscous circle . How do you find the hook up ratio with them rapalas , ive seen it said on other forums that they are poor hookers . Can't really see it myself because the back treble is free and they are not a big deep sided lure .

Personally with the rapala i think the fish hit them really hard and i have my drag set very soft so the fish can draw a bit of line off the drag as i hit it, otherwise i think the tear the hook hold out.

 

 

I wonder if the choice of mono or braid is a factor with hook ups? I use braid for sea fishing, but I have so far stayed with mono for the bit of freshwater fishing I do...On a small spinning rod, I suspect braids lack of stretch might make it a bit harsh when striking?

[Pete E 1]

lifelong cumbrian, on 11 Jan 2017 - 5:34 PM, said:

I will put pic on later. I have a greys ultralite 5' 6", great rod, took grilse and salmon on it when out for trout.

 

 

That grilse was about 5lb.

Lovely little rod!One thr new version, I believe they have restyled the handle to a more modern looking two piece, which while functional lacks the charm of yours...

[neil r 1,795]

 

lifelong cumbrian, on 11 Jan 2017 - 10:42 PM, said:

 

 

neil r, on 11 Jan 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

 

There's a few lures made on that principle now like the savage gear line thrus and mr whiggly . It's a good way of doing it although it's mainly done on the line thrus and whigglys to protect the soft plastic from getting ripped up . I've had Toby's in the past but never had a fish on them but then again I hardly used them so it was a viscous circle . How do you find the hook up ratio with them rapalas , ive seen it said on other forums that they are poor hookers . Can't really see it myself because the back treble is free and they are not a big deep sided lure .

Personally with the rapala i think the fish hit them really hard and i have my drag set very soft so the fish can draw a bit of line off the drag as i hit it, otherwise i think the tear the hook hold out.

I wonder if the choice of mono or braid is a factor with hook ups? I use braid for sea fishing, but I have so far stayed with mono for the bit of freshwater fishing I do...On a small spinning rod, I suspect braids lack of stretch might make it a bit harsh when striking?

I will only use braid for lure fishing and all my rods from the ultralights to the 180-300g jerkbait and swimbait rods are fast action or xtra fast action and I don't suffer many drop offs with it . The only time it happened was when I first got into to jerkbaits and I tried using a jw super shooter rod and was loosing more than I was landing and the problem was the rod was too soft and wasn't setting the hook properly , not the harshness off the braid . If your using mono in freshwater have a look at one of the softer flourocarbon lines if your local shop has any , they have less stretch than mono but more than braid . If it's the normal harder stuff it might be a bit springy and unruly which will lead to tangles with light lures and a fixed spool reel . Edited January 12, 2017 by neil r

[neil r 1,795]

 

 

There's a few lures made on that principle now like the savage gear line thrus and mr whiggly . It's a good way of doing it although it's mainly done on the line thrus and whigglys to protect the soft plastic from getting ripped up . I've had Toby's in the past but never had a fish on them but then again I hardly used them so it was a viscous circle . How do you find the hook up ratio with them rapalas , ive seen it said on other forums that they are poor hookers . Can't really see it myself because the back treble is free and they are not a big deep sided lure .

Personally with the rapala i think the fish hit them really hard and i have my drag set very soft so the fish can draw a bit of line off the drag as i hit it, otherwise i think the tear the hook hold out.

That's what I do with perch because of their delicate mouths . With my multiplier set ups for pike though , I basically lock the clutch up and even though some of the hits are savage it needs to be done to set the hooks properly

[lifelong cumbrian 1,789]

 

lifelong cumbrian, on 11 Jan 2017 - 10:42 PM, said:

 

neil r, on 11 Jan 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

There's a few lures made on that principle now like the savage gear line thrus and mr whiggly . It's a good way of doing it although it's mainly done on the line thrus and whigglys to protect the soft plastic from getting ripped up . I've had Toby's in the past but never had a fish on them but then again I hardly used them so it was a viscous circle . How do you find the hook up ratio with them rapalas , ive seen it said on other forums that they are poor hookers . Can't really see it myself because the back treble is free and they are not a big deep sided lure .

Personally with the rapala i think the fish hit them really hard and i have my drag set very soft so the fish can draw a bit of line off the drag as i hit it, otherwise i think the tear the hook hold out.

 

 

I wonder if the choice of mono or braid is a factor with hook ups? I use braid for sea fishing, but I have so far stayed with mono for the bit of freshwater fishing I do...On a small spinning rod, I suspect braids lack of stretch might make it a bit harsh when striking?

 

I think you you need your drag set a bit lighter with braid than mono when salmon river fishing, i know it goes against why you use braid ( no or little stretch) but i think when a salmon take a lure or fly it comes out of its lie and turn back to its lie if the drag is set lighter you can hook it going back, i set the drag on my fly reel light with salmon and let them hook themselves dropping back into their lie, i don't hold the line. For trout and sea trout i hold line and hit them right away. Just my personal opinion as always. Different fish different situations, the natural stretch in mono has a lot more give as you will know. Interesting thread this, loads of things to mull over. ATB

[Pete E 1]

The replacement for my broken telescopic rod arrived today in the form of a 6' 6" Uglly Stik Lite...This is a four section rod rated at 5gr to15gr...I bought this "blind" online and I have to say although I wasn't expecting the elegance of say a Greys, this really does live up to its Ugly name...

 

That said it comes across as a functional spinning rod rather than a modern UL fast action lure rod, which is what I wanted.

 

I have to say I miss the old school fibreglass spinning rods of my youth and while I understand the reasoning behind the various modern lure rods, old school worked just fine with Mepps, devon minnows and Flying "C"'s, and I am sure the Ugly Stik will work also as well as being able be used for light ledgering ect...

[C.green 3,203]

This may be a silly qestion to the experienced but will trout take lures or spinners at night ?

[C.green 3,203]

 

This may be a silly qestion to the experienced but will trout take lures or spinners at night ?

Aye mate an usually very well, try some smaller plugs with a gead in em to rattle, or bigger plugs for bigger trout haha

Cheers. I live couple seconds walk away from a lovely bit of chalk stream that's free to fish the trout are wise I see them going to take spinners in the day but I allways seem to lose them straight away as if there not getting hooked properly ? Also what sort of lures and spinners are best for fast shallow gin clear water ? Or is it just stick to the trusty old free line bread and size 6 hook lol Edited January 12, 2017 by C.green

[lifelong cumbrian 1,789]

Aye definetly, if you are fishing rivers try the thinner water in necks and tails of pools, they work that water under cover of darkness.