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#1 Blueboybilly

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Posted 12 November 2016 - 06:37 pm

Hi,

I have joined a local shoot in a trade off where I go beating in exchange for hunting permission with my Lucher and Whippet. Happy days.

I am currently beating without a dog but would like to take on a pup for next season. The decision that I am struggling with is - Springer or Cocker.

When I speak to the Springer guys they tell me to get a Springer because they are more intelligent but when I speak to the cocker guys they tell me to get a cocker because they are more steady.

For me the dog needs to be:

Bidable
Intelligent
Fast
Steady

All opinions welcome!

BBB

#2 Blueboybilly

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 08:01 pm

Any Opinion at all please guys

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Posted 13 November 2016 - 09:06 pm

Not much in them mate..i've owned both and think cockers can be a little more complexed at times but if you get the training right either will do the job just fine
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Posted 13 November 2016 - 09:15 pm

cockers are funny they only got one gear lol  Get dizzy watching them 

 


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#5 Nobby8126

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Posted 15 November 2016 - 05:54 pm

If it just for beating mate either will do. I prefer my springers but would happily take a cocker.
Cockers are a little more nuts in my opinion but work really hard, they can also be a little harder to control when they are onto something. But right training and you'll be golden with either.

Edited by Nobby8126, 15 November 2016 - 06:01 pm.

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Posted 16 November 2016 - 10:43 pm

I love my cocker n that word doesn't come easy for me but seen some good springers aswell good luck..

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#7 wilbur foxhound

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 03:13 pm

why does it have to be fast

#8 Naustroms

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Posted 17 November 2016 - 05:23 pm

Get you one of the cockers. Very smart little dogs that will tear up the field for you

#9 Blueboybilly

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 06:49 am

why does it have to be fast


It doesn't need to be fast, however, a fast dog is my preference - I enjoy watching (and owning) fast working dogs. I also think that it goes better with Field Trials

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 02:15 pm

A mate of mine has a Sprocker and it works extremely well... not had any experience with any of the breeds myself but he used to swear by a cocker but in the last few years he has kept sprockers and loves them

#11 Blueboybilly

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Posted 18 November 2016 - 09:10 pm

Never considered a sprocker. Might be a good shout

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 12:02 am

It wasn't that long ago when they came from the same litters. Cockers were the smaller pups in the litter, springers were the larger one's. Go for a springer if your going to do a bit of picking up as well as beating. Not that Cockers can't manage it but springers have the size advantage to help with larger cock birds.

#13 Pat G2G

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 12:17 am

I've never had a cocker but my dads had a lot. I find them to needy for my liking so i stick to springers. Did have a good sprocker tho. Think most of it is personal preference tbh.

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Posted 19 November 2016 - 11:16 am

Cockers rock, labs are born half trained , springers die half trained and all dogs will drive you nuts Atb Joe

true  haha :thumbs:  , a saluki or saluki x  would drive you nuts then, from what people say  lol



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Posted 19 November 2016 - 12:57 pm

for me a springer everytime, speaking only from the ones ive seen cockers have been headless chickens and  seem to put more game up crashing about rather than nose, also a lot softer than a springer for thick brambles ect and with a lot of them their size lets them down aswell for retrieving seen small bitches struggling with cock pheasants.as I say just from what I have seen. cheers




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