I think the point you make about people not reporting the loss of ammunition is a valid one, any stalker who has followed this thread will think twice before reporting lost ammunition, having watched the proceedings i like you believe the judge had made his mind up before any evidence was given he was without doubt in a rush to get away.
you have an open invitation to hunt the elusive sussex fallow anytime you fancy and the little dog won't be a problem. if you can can arrange an outing with Rich at the same all the better, ti might be a good idea to let the members on the stalking directory know the outcome.
keep you chin up
Whilst I have nothing but sympathy for the loss of the FAC and SGC for Owen I think we may be missing the point regarding the possibility of ammunition falling into the wrong hands. I don't think it is a valid point to suggest it will now be less likely that lost ammunition will be reported. The entire premise of the revocation is based entirely on allowing the ammunition to be placed in a situation that significantly increases the likelihood of it being stolen. I think it's a bit of a straw-man argument to then suggest it will now see a reduction in the reporting of stolen ammunition, the police would simply counter that point by stating it shouldn't be left where there's an increased chance of that happening anyway. It's not the threat or risk of a revocation that leads to ammunition and/or firearms falling into the hands of criminals, it's their improper storage (generally). If my house was broken into and my firearms and/or ammunition were stolen from their locked and securely fixed storage I wouldn't have a moments hesitation in reporting that to the police. The salient point from this entire story should not be the thought of not reporting stolen ammunition, it's that we should all be mindful of the consequences should we lapse in our responsibilities as SGC and FAC holders. Getting hold of the tickets is generally straightforward, keeping hold of them - less so. We should all be mindful that, given half a chance the local constabulary will have zero compunction in revocation should they be presented with (in their view) a valid reason.
For what it's worth, and speaking as a fellow shooter I also think a strict warning and perhaps some punitive measure that didn't entail the loss of the certs could have been used, though similarly I'm not entirely surprised this was deemed insufficient. It's not the first time I've heard of a ticket being revoked because of ammunition left in a vehicle (I know of a at least one SGC lost because of two cartridges left in a vehicle). You have my sympathies Owen, I would be absolutely inconsolable if I were in your position. I sincerely hope that, in the fullness of time, a reapplication is successful for you.
Edited by stuartpengs, 09 October 2016 - 02:19 pm.