Rock Piles

[pbrookes 450]

Maybe in passing why?

I have a dog here going back to them both

[Pick and bar 381]

Mick was very slape coated " smooth" very similar to a lot of the wheeler bred dogs. That came later, he was fairly round chested, and a lump of a dog.

JP was never shy of dropping a dog in,I would cringe at some of the places , no locator. He had a wonderful confident faith in his stock. Great man to be out with, formidable drinker and a fulmidable knowledge of blood stock.

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

Ok & whay way is Wally & Wasp bred?

[spindolero 1,109]

i recall on the very old patterdale forum an irish lad had pics of cowan dogs he had in 90s and they were big strong things-well worked

cant for the life of me remember his name

[Rabbit Hunter 6,608]

Yeah I remember them pics Spindolero.

[chesney 5,326]

Best thread being on here with a while

[Bryan 1,361]

Are the Fell pack using iron hard rock dogs still or just bolters?

[dazbrowne 13 333]

Here's two oldies of him, one with a full coat and the other shaved down. He looked like a black n tan box headed whippet, one of the reasons anyone who had a decent bitch stayed clear...IMG-20160808-WA0000.jpgIMG-20160808-WA0001.jpg

this is my young terrier i think she has a look of yours bosun

[Bosun11 537]

Here's two oldies of him, one with a full coat and the other shaved down. He looked like a black n tan box headed whippet, one of the reasons anyone who had a decent bitch stayed clear...IMG-20160808-WA0000.jpgIMG-20160808-WA0001.jpg

2015-10-31 12.07.52.jpg this is my young terrier i think she has a look of yours bosun

 

She does Daz, yes.

[Rat face 1,655]

 

 

 

 

What about Cowan and Tyson blood?

Now that really is 'THE' question Bryan, the one i was hoping we'd get to...

I have no idea but i'd love to find out..

I haven't heard of any cowan blood around for years, my old man really rated them as hard dogs and some of his best dogs came straight out of cowans yard, only problem was they would kill anything that moved

I know AG brought some good Cowan blood with him when he came to hunt the Waterford foxhounds in the late 80's and MF carried on with that blood, but it's well diluted by now.

Bryan, i've just been googling John Cowan and a couple of old archived THL threds exist. John only died in 2013 and kept terriers right up to his death. So there must be stuff still about.

Though, from what i read, he had very few terriers in his latter years but knew where his stuff was..

Sadly, he suffered at the hands of the scum that are dog thieves a few times and did loose some good animals.

 

he was a regular up at the lowther show, im sure a lot of hunt terriers up that way still carry cowan blood in them

[Kaizer Sozĕ 266]

Around the same time (Im quessing) as Ken Gould had Smithy & his type, John Parkes had his successful line of terriers, the likes of Monty, Mick etc Did anyone cross these 2 lines "at that time" ie. Smithy over daughters/sisters to Mick/Monty or Mick /Monty over daughters/sisters to Smithy (not generations later) & if so how did the pups go?

[spindolero 1,109]

Around the same time (Im quessing) as Ken Gould had Smithy & his type, John Parkes had his successful line of terriers, the likes of Monty, Mick etc Did anyone cross these 2 lines "at that time" ie. Smithy over daughters/sisters to Mick/Monty or Mick /Monty over daughters/sisters to Smithy (not generations later) & if so how did the pups go?

 

Spartacus was out of Parks bitch to a Gould dog I think

[Dead Eyes 680]

It's nice to have all these terriers of the past to look back on and admire, but isnt the whole point of breeding to take a line forward?

[kirstysdad 827]

pic of sons dog last week at show 8 years old that was his first show looks like Mick dog smooth coated very steady in his work but gets the job done

[Bosun11 537]

 

Around the same time (Im quessing) as Ken Gould had Smithy & his type, John Parkes had his successful line of terriers, the likes of Monty, Mick etc Did anyone cross these 2 lines "at that time" ie. Smithy over daughters/sisters to Mick/Monty or Mick /Monty over daughters/sisters to Smithy (not generations later) & if so how did the pups go?

 

Spartacus was out of Parks bitch to a Gould dog I think

Time dims memory but did Gouldy ever put that in his avertisments for the dog. If he did, i really can't remember...? Spartacus was primarily bred for stud and was heavily advertised as such.