DogMan85 722 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 All of the negative effects in that article are personal effects on the user, certainly nothing comparable to crack and heroin or even alcohol. But it still has a negative effect on the people around them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 All of the negative effects in that article are personal effects on the user, certainly nothing comparable to crack and heroin or even alcohol.But it still has a negative effect on the people around them.No different to what an alcoholics family may have to go through Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 All of the negative effects in that article are personal effects on the user, certainly nothing comparable to crack and heroin or even alcohol.But it still has a negative effect on the people around them. Compromises have to be made for the benefit of society, show me weed causes as much problems for society as crack and heroin and I'd be all for it being illegal. I would however support something like the Swiss model of prescribing heroin to addicts. Pay attention to the part in italics and especially the bit in bold Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 All of the negative effects in that article are personal effects on the user, certainly nothing comparable to crack and heroin or even alcohol.But it still has a negative effect on the people around them. Compromises have to be made for the benefit of society, show me weed causes as much problems for society as crack and heroin and I'd be all for it being illegal. I would however support something like the Swiss model of prescribing heroin to addicts. Pay attention to the part in italics and especially the bit in bold Where do we set the limits then? When is it a problem and when is it isn't? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 27, 2017 Report Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) I don't have one my friend and that's the truth but I know this much, waving the white flag won't make it any better. No worries, mate. This is one we'll just have to disagree on. Some of the most successful people i know have smoked weed daily for years but if they drank everyday i very much doubt they would have made half the success they have. One of the best gamblers i knew was a complete stoner and he spanked us for so much money with a horse racing system he come up with we got told to ban him lmao but again as a drunk i seriously doubt he would of been so prolific. Booze and gambling are great friends. That's why all the casinos, down the road in Nevada, give away free drinks to gamblers! Nothing like watching a normally cautious bloke throw it down because he was pissed... Each to their own. Edited March 27, 2017 by ChrisJones 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,973 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Totally agree with that, the bookies would love to sell beer if they were allowed x I bet they would! Legalized gambling did a lot for Nevada's economy. I'm sure anyone that's ever seen Scorcese's Casino saw how they took a cheap patch of sand and turned it into vice's promised land. They've figured out every way to make you empty your wallet. Even non-gamblers are catered for at every turn. Now that weed is legal for recreational use, in Nevada, I'll be curious to see how long it takes for them to get in on it. I'll be interested to see what it does to LV's crime rate as they disproportionately skew the crime figures, for the rest of Nevada. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Nobody has been willing to answer my question regarding employment should it ever be legalised, every firm I know has a strict drugs & alcohol policy. In my sector you get tested positive for either and it's a 5 year ban from the industry no questions asked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 You've answered your own question, in industries that have strict drink and drug policies those policies will stay the same regardless of the legality of weed, just like alcohol is legal but if you test positive you'll get a 5 year ban from the industry (incidentally that seems really harsh, what industry is it, railway?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogMan85 722 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) You've answered your own question, in industries that have strict drink and drug policies those policies will stay the same regardless of the legality of weed, just like alcohol is legal but if you test positive you'll get a 5 year ban from the industry (incidentally that seems really harsh, what industry is it, railway?)Yes the rail industry but even in construction it's a sackable offence by most companies. Alcohol is out the system much quicker than weed so it's pretty easy to get away with it unless you've gone overboard, I wonder what would be the legal limit for weed in the workplace. Edited March 28, 2017 by DogMan85 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,385 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 You've answered your own question, in industries that have strict drink and drug policies those policies will stay the same regardless of the legality of weed, just like alcohol is legal but if you test positive you'll get a 5 year ban from the industry (incidentally that seems really harsh, what industry is it, railway?)Yes the rail industry but even in construction it's a sackable offence by most companies. Thought so I've got a lot of family that work the railways, harsh but rightly so really when you consider the risks involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,560 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 -90% of people I see smoking weed I'd say are under the age of 18 surely that depends on how old you are -90% of the people I see smoke weed are in there 50s and 60s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
haymin 2,465 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 Does anybody have a contact for medical oil my friends dad had prostate cancer pm obviously ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dave88 1,565 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 -90% of people I see smoking weed I'd say are under the age of 18 surely that depends on how old you are -90% of the people I see smoke weed are in there 50s and 60sTeenagers walk around here smoking it like anyone else would a cigarette...they have literally no fear of being caught or collared. Saw it at a local kids park yesterday, 6 or 7 lads passing round a joint. I see more kids smoking that than I do underage drinkers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Silversnake 1,099 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 I believe the benefits of legalising weed would far outweigh the negatives. In saying that I agree with nearly all wilf's points. I am not a smoker but I understand the many other benefits of the plant and I feel legalising smoking it would also open many other uses and possibilities. In regards to kids accessing dope parents need to take some responsibility educating their kids as I have been able to get pretty much anything I want from around 12-13 years of age and it is the same for most kids. I can see there is no perfect answer here just my two pence worth. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted March 28, 2017 Report Share Posted March 28, 2017 It's great to see the usual suspects finding tenuous reasons to justify their habit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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