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#1 harrycatcat

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 08:06 pm

I have an old side by side and a Baikal over and under.
I am thinking that if I wanted to take up wildfowling then I would need a different gun.

What sort of gun do you use for wildfowling and why did you choose that sort of gun ??
Is it an all round gun??

This is not a trick I am interested in different opinions, pumps,auto's,oau,sbs ?????

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Posted 27 November 2007 - 08:38 pm

hi harrycatcat, i use a 12 bore 3 shot semi auto beretta 3" ,thats just my personal prefference. i think if you shoot well with the gun that you use for any of the other shooting that you do ,why bother buying a different one just for fowling . i use my auto for pigeon shooting and clay shooting then i have a browning for game shooting .the reason i use a browning is because it is not ethical to turn up on a pheasant shoot with a semi auto 3 shot.



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Posted 27 November 2007 - 08:53 pm

Cheers Wag

The reason I asked is that on a previous thread someone was taking the p*ss cos shooters were "coming from down south with their game guns" I think it was something to do with fowling in Scotland.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:13 pm

i know what you mean but you should only shoot at anything that you know thats in range ,they were on about people shooting at geese out of range , but if you know they are out of range for a your gun dont shoot. you can read to much into it but shooting at geese that are out of range then yes i can see why they get pissed off i have just suspended two lads from our club for shooting at geese that were out of range .we dont need it its bad for our sport .



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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:42 pm

Yes I agree with what you say Wag, I am from the old school.
It seems that the semi auto is the gun favoured by wildfowlers though but why ?
I had a Franci 5 shot when you could have one on a shot cert and it fit like a glove but got shut in a mad moment when it had to be converted to 3 shot cos of, was it Hungerford or some idiot somewhere shooting up.

I got one about a year ago but sold it soon after couldnt just settle to it.

Might be a good excuse to try another. :thumbs:

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 09:21 pm

Harrycatcat,my choice from your existing guns would be the Baikal. For wildfowl you need some bigger shells,so if the Baikal has 2 3/4" chambers,a mini-magnum with 36 grms of #3 shot (say) should do the job. You would not want to fire these through a side-by. Most new guns these days seem to be chambered 3",which is of no use to most folks who shoot only normal game (pheasant) or clays. It's good news for wildfowlers though,much more choice than before. The 3" chambers are listed as a selling point,but I think it just reduces the types of barrels in production.
Wag,well done on suspending the chancers shooting at out of range birds.

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 02:26 pm

It seems that the semi auto is the gun favoured by wildfowlers though but why ?


the only reason i use the auto is because of the extra shot because you dont get many chances out on the marshes :no: so i make the most of it when a chance comes a long and the reason i use a 3" is for geese then i use 3" heavy shot for the geese only because they aint cheap about a pound a shell :icon_eek: .


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Posted 29 November 2007 - 09:06 pm

Wag

I have sent PM

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 06:34 pm

It seems that the semi auto is the gun favoured by wildfowlers though but why ?


the only reason i use the auto is because of the extra shot because you dont get many chances out on the marshes http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... so i make the most of it when a chance comes a long and the reason i use a 3" is for geese then i use 3" heavy shot for the geese only because they aint cheap about a pound a shell http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... .


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http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... i use a beretta extrema 3 shot 3.1/2" chamber for most of my wildfowling, like you say you dont get many chances wildfowling,its also fairly light to carry,you can tailor your loads to suit your quarry,at first light i am waiting for geese,so i am using 3,1/2" steel,after the flight i slip in some lighter cartridges and go walkabout hoping for widgeon by the river,the other advantage with a auto is less recoil with the big cartridges,i get more of a kick from my side by side with 3"cartridges than i do using 3,1/2"in the auto .i also use a single 8 bore with 4,1/4"chamber, and have just bought two muzzle loaders a 8 bore and a 6 bore the 6 bore was used as a light weight punt gun apparently,though it looks a bit light for that they were made about 1850 -1880 and would probably be more suited to hanging on a pub wall,i like using the old guns but they dont match the extrema and modern ammo if you just want to bag birds, as regards southeners coming up and shooting out of range birds http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... who hasent stretched it a bit at times,and you dont have to be from down south to fall into that catergary http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



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Posted 11 December 2007 - 12:28 am

I shoot a S&W 20b SA on wildfowl. Its an old (ish) gun but fits like a glove. Like it was said above the choice of SA was based on the benefit of the 3rd shot.

Pr 16b Westley Richards ss on the moors
12b Atkin SL ss on lowland
Browning Cynergy 12b on clays
Webley .410 ba for vermin and fun
20b S&W sa for wildfowl, foxing and clays
.22 cz for sml vermin
17hmr for med vermin
243 Merkel for fox and sml deer
6.5mm Schultz Larsen for deer and lrg game
16b / 308 Drilling for boar

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 07:51 pm

I shoot a S&W 20b SA on wildfowl. Its an old (ish) gun but fits like a glove. Like it was said above the choice of SA was based on the benefit of the 3rd shot.

Pr 16b Westley Richards ss on the moors
12b Atkin SL ss on lowland
Browning Cynergy 12b on clays
Webley .410 ba for vermin and fun
20b S&W sa for wildfowl, foxing and clays
.22 cz for sml vermin
17hmr for med vermin
243 Merkel for fox and sml deer
6.5mm Schultz Larsen for deer and lrg game
16b / 308 Drilling for boar


I am glad that I dont have the job of cleaning all your guns Lord B but thaks for your response.
Chap came on our small syndicate shoot last Saturday when it was p*ssing it down and he brought a SA it was all stainless with a synthetic stock looked a bit out of place but due to the weather I could not blame him. I assume that would be a good gun to have near sea/salt water if any.

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Posted 14 December 2007 - 09:24 pm

I shoot a S&W 20b SA on wildfowl. Its an old (ish) gun but fits like a glove. Like it was said above the choice of SA was based on the benefit of the 3rd shot.

Pr 16b Westley Richards ss on the moors
12b Atkin SL ss on lowland
Browning Cynergy 12b on clays
Webley .410 ba for vermin and fun
20b S&W sa for wildfowl, foxing and clays
.22 cz for sml vermin
17hmr for med vermin
243 Merkel for fox and sml deer
6.5mm Schultz Larsen for deer and lrg game
16b / 308 Drilling for boar


I am glad that I dont have the job of cleaning all your guns Lord B but thaks for your response.
Chap came on our small syndicate shoot last Saturday when it was p*ssing it down and he brought a SA it was all stainless with a synthetic stock looked a bit out of place but due to the weather I could not blame him. I assume that would be a good gun to have near sea/salt water if any.

Thanks. Yes, but if he brought that near our shoot he'd be lucky if he got it out of the slip!!! We're not a stuck up sidelock side by side type of place but I'd draw the line at polished steel and black plastic!!

Semi auto is your best aim, three shot, three inch cholk, after that its price and fit. I personaly prefer the older guns, Browning A1, S&W, Remmy 1100, Beretta 303 etc very robust, basic and reliable; whereas I've seen quite a few of the newer examples starting to fall apart. Thats only my exp and pref though.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 01:49 am

interesting :hmm: commenting on someone elses choice of firearms. why would you feel the need to tell some one what type of gun they could use?just asking because behavior like that would be very poorly received here.the reasons you could request some one not bring a firearm would be limited to legality and safety. anyway the most common are either pump/slide actions or semi auto's here. i own other actions but just can't find the alure in them. might be a cultural thing?

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:26 am

interesting http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... commenting on someone elses choice of firearms. why would you feel the need to tell some one what type of gun they could use?just asking because behavior like that would be very poorly received here.the reasons you could request some one not bring a firearm would be limited to legality and safety. anyway the most common are either pump/slide actions or semi auto's here. i own other actions but just can't find the alure in them. might be a cultural thing?



pegleg ,lord b is not being clever or bigheaded he is just stating a fact that on english pheasants shoots it is not ethical to use a semi auto or pump action on them. there ok for other shooting ie pigeon shooting ,wildfowling , clayshooting , etc, etc, but on pheasants shoots i think its to do with tradition like you say its a culture thing .



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Posted 17 December 2007 - 09:27 am

I use va 3 shot escort magnum for pigeon duck and formal day use a berreta silver pigeon or aya 12 bore am considering synergie as have shot one recently at clay school and was a class act.The escoet is cheap and cheerfull and is hammered and for a cheap auto is very simple to maintain and well worth the money
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