j1985 1,983 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Lol hundred percent truth, if you want to beleive that, thats up to you, il stick to the truth Can I ask why you believe in what you do ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,380 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 The bible is nothing more than a rewrite of old pagan storytelling about the stars earth and nature ...nothing more than story's by simple ( uneducated) people trying to make sense of it all sat round fires looking up at the night skys and seeing shapes....the resurrection is a prime example ...on the winter solstice the sun or the "son of God" stays at it lowest for 3 days after that it gets higher everyday after hence the " resurrection of the son of god "the sun" ...the bible borrows and steals from many different religions and cultures and puts its own bullshit spin on them to make them more palatable for the then emerging modern world and used as a means of law and control...I don't believe in God's or creators it's a far too simple and convenient answer I believe the truth is much more complex ed and strange. Atb kanny have you been watching "Jupiter ascending" LolMore complexed an strange, lets here your view then, them films pauls mentioned, arent real, sci fi lol lol yes I've watched Jupiter ascending and no I don't believe it one bit however I feel its probably more believable than the bible,....my own thinking now days tends to lean towards theory's like string , brane and ekpyrotic I accept they have there flaws but I believe there on the right track.... if you haven't seen zeitgeist film on religion its worth a look its the thing that put the last nail in religions coffin for me... here it is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,983 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 That zeitgeist is a good watch!! But no matter what the religious nuts will have a crazy answer then a question (deflection tactics) for you lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,380 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Zeitgeist on religion and just for laughs jim jefferies on religion very funny but he makes some good points to Edited April 29, 2015 by kanny 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-02-25/#feature So you beleibe zeitgiest, lol no primary sources just occult crap, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-02-25/#feature So you beleibe zeitgiest, lol no primary sources just occult crap, No sources lmao, you mean like christianity and religion in general QB Some of the sources are carved in stone, literally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,380 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-02-25/#feature So you beleibe zeitgiest, lol no primary sources just occult crap, unlike the bible lmao The no sources argument against zeitgeist was dead year's ago there source info has always been published on there website and I believe there is also a book that deals with the sources used to make the film....I respect your beliefs quater as I do everyone's no matter of creed or colour ....faith is generally a good thing teaching decent morals nothing wrong with that side of things but I do have a problem with a lot of the bull (imo) that comes with it. Atb kanny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Theres nothing like the bible, for any need at all, it doesnt bother me anymore people are entitled to their opinions, their like arseholes, everyone has one, id rather debate face to face, cause i cant type an its not the same.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Being serious QB, it can't all be coincidence, the life story of Krishna and that sort of thing, virtually all cultures had a "jesus" character, these stories have been told round camp fires for thousands of years mate, well before anybody wrote anything down, probably that far back that they were told before many humans existed, that would explain why people thousands of miles apart have the same stories? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Being serious QB, it can't all be coincidence, the life story of Krishna and that sort of thing, virtually all cultures had a "jesus" character, these stories have been told round camp fires for thousands of years mate, well before anybody wrote anything down, probably that far back that they were told before many humans existed, that would explain why people thousands of miles apart have the same stories? Trust me truther, they might have s story, but thats all, if you dig deep on these , ie gods, you will soonfind out, what there all about, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 19,380 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 If we are all God's children then what makes jesus so fecking special? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Being serious QB, it can't all be coincidence, the life story of Krishna and that sort of thing, virtually all cultures had a "jesus" character, these stories have been told round camp fires for thousands of years mate, well before anybody wrote anything down, probably that far back that they were told before many humans existed, that would explain why people thousands of miles apart have the same stories? Trust me truther, they might have s story, but thats all, if you dig deep on these , ie gods, you will soonfind out, what there all about, You should be questioning why they have the same stories QB, its factual, not some slanted opinion based on a belief. If you can point me in the right direction of some good, non belief needing info im all ears mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter bull 240 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I know why they have a little similarity , that means nothing, ive already stated truther, that ive been threw all other religons an philosophys, im talking hundreds of hours of research, no need to go threw it again. Good non beleif needing info, lol, well you should stay away from evoloution, thats all false beleif lol I would say go research, dna, it proves beyond beleif, dont just research one page from berkley, lol, look into properly on both sides, then independent research, then go over it again, its up to you what you do, an what you beleive, mate doesnt bother me, im just a defender :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,624 Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) That zeitgeist is a good watch!! But no matter what the religious nuts will have a crazy answer then a question (deflection tactics) for you lol I cant for the life of me work some folk out.......you are a total non believer who thinks religious people are nuts......yet you are then asking a believer why he believes what he does ...........why would you ask a crazy person why he is crazy i just dont get it Its like me asking a Millwall fan why he supports Millwall.......anything he tells me other than " because im a c**t " im not going to accept so whats the point asking ! How can folk so against belief in God have pages and pages of opinions about it.....it does make me wonder if yous are quite as black and white on the subject as you make out Edited April 30, 2015 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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