Rspca

[Gareth12 224]

A freedom of information act request would be interesting, something along the lines of 'how many previously healthy dogs have died or been euthanised whilst in RSPCA care'? hmmmm

[LMFAO 94]

Really sad story this. I think no matter what the solicitor says, there should be a fund to raise money to get this message out. Them photos with RSPCA in big letters with that caption, this to this in 2 days thanks to the RSPCA would do some damage on a bill board. £500 would cover the costs and it would get national exposure. Even if that's extreme, you get get a lot of flyers made and everyone put them on every lamp post. Raise money to publicize this, beat the antis at there own game.

[Flipper_Al 1,012]

Just read all through this.. ffs it beggars belief

 

Small point but it may help people that don't know who Clive Rees is "I asked Clive to find out what had happened?" change that to read i have asked Clive Rees my solicitor, to find out what has happened"... from then on Clive is fine

 

 

 

[clipo 871]

Eagle saved by falconer Roy Lupton dies after being taken to an RSPCA centre

 

Roy Lupton with a captive-bred golden eagle. He said that he was horrified by conditions for a wild eagle at an RSPCA centre

A wild golden eagle rescued by a falconry expert has died after being seized by police and animal welfare officials.

 

Last November Roy Lupton, 34, a falconer from Hollingsbourne, Kent, was in Perthshire when a friend’s bird became locked in a fight with a wild golden eagle, one of Britain’s rarest birds of prey. There are 442 breeding pairs, mainly in Scotland.

 

Questions are being asked about the bird’s care at an RSPCA centre after it was confiscated from Roy Lupton, a falconer from Kent, who was nursing the eagle from injuries sustained in the wild.

 

The episode began in November last year when Mr Lupton, from Hollingsbourne, Kent, who keeps golden eagles and goshawks, set out with friends to take their birds to fly them in their natural habitat in Perthshire.

 

During the trip his friend’s female golden eagle became locked in a fight with a wild golden eagle. Mr Lupton, 34, a member of the Hawk Board, which represents 25,000 falconers, and an expert for Fieldsports TV, thought that the injuries to the wild bird were so serious that it would need veterinary treatment. It had suffered serious damage to the area of the chest where food is stored and near the eyes.

 

Mr Lupton sought permission from the Scottish Executive to remove the bird and nurse her at his specialist premises at Hollingsbourne. Without authority he would be liable to a £5,000 fine and up to six months in prison for removing a bird from the wild.

 

He planned to release the eagle in the spring. “I was concerned that the eagle, who I called Colin, was getting too used to humans,” he said. “It is important for these wild birds to be afraid of humans as it helps their protection in the wild. So I thought the best thing would be to fit a satellite monitor on the bird so conservationists could track her progress in the wild.”

 

Mr Lupton said that he told official from the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) about his plans. In May 5 his home and aviaries were raided by three officers from Kent Police, a policeman on secondment to Defra’s animal heath section and a wildlife crimes investigator from the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds.

 

“I explained everything to them but they were adamant they were going to remove the wild golden eagle and accused me of the illegal theft of the bird and keeping an unregistered bird,” he said.

 

“But what really appalled me is that they had no understanding of how to deal with such a bird. They brought the wrong box to carry the bird, I had to lend them one of my own.”

 

The bird was taken to the Mallydam wildlife centre in Sussex, run by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Mr Lupton was formally questioned by police, who passed the matter to the Crown Prosecution Service, but the case was dropped.

 

He was concerned about the eagle’s fate and was allowed to visit the premises with his vet. “I was horrified by what I saw,” he said. “The RSPCA was keeping the bird on a concrete floor, which is bad for its talons, and there was leaf mould on the roof of the room, which can cause lung infections in golden eagles.”

 

A month later he was allowed to take the bird home. Her condition had badly deteriorated and his local vet took blood tests. The bird was found to be suffering lead poisoning and Mr Lupton learnt that it had been fed on rabbits which had been shot with lead pellet.

 

On June 17 he took the bird to a centre in Swindon run by Neil Forbes, an avian veterinary surgeon. The eagle died 12 hours later.

 

In his autopsy report, Mr Forbes said that the bird was kept in inappropriate conditions while in the care of the RSPCA and was “not provided with good practice in terms of husbandry”.

 

He said: “Whilst I cannot be certain the bird’s death was a direct result of the Defra seizure and the period of RSPCA care, certainly the stress effect (suppressing the immune system), the persistent systemic infection from the time of leaving the RSPCA care, does indicate a very high likelihood of a causative link between the period of care and the bird’s subsequent death.”

 

The Hawk Board is demanding answers from Defra about the events.

 

Defra said that it could not comment on details as the case was subject to an internal investigation. “Animal health officers, with Kent Police, attended a falconry in Kent in the belief that the person in question did not have the correct paperwork for the eagle,” it said.

 

The RSPCA said: “Staff were extremely upset to hear about the death of this eagle and the society agrees this is a very sad and tragic event.” It said that it had had only two days’ notice to make preparations for the bird and during its stay staff raised concerns that it might have had underlying health problems.

 

The RSPB said that it was concerned about the eagle’s death and hoped that Defra would learn lessons from the incident.

 

[mushroom 12,387]

Someone go onto this page and post the link please...

 

https://www.(!64.56:886/TheWSPA

[air gun ant 1,666]

i remeber watching that episode pricks

[Plummerterrier 291]

Your are being niave. What a chopper

[Tiercel 6,986]

Guys it seems as if this thread is getting a load of attention on the internet, it has had enough impact that people have joined to comment. Lets show them that we are not the great unwashed they think we are. Calling people names will do no good at all, I feel the same as you but you have to keep a clear head. We have to try and keep it civil for dye's sake, it would be rather sad if something said here jeopardised his case.

 

TC

[neems 2,406]

Yep 76 guests reading this,there'll be a lot more later,I think.

[mushroom 12,387]

There's been hundreds of guests reading this since yesterday

 

Welcome guys, feel free to come and comment in we don't bite :laugh:

[neems 2,406]

There's been hundreds of guests reading this since yesterday

 

Welcome guys, feel free to come and comment in we don't bite :laugh:

I wonder how many are very nervous rspca inspectors or supporters lol

 

To any who are,I hope you either see the light now or get what's coming to you.

[Ideation 8,216]

Sick, just pure sick.

 

They are absolute scum in every conceivable way.

 

And they know nothing about animals.

 

Something HAS to be done about them.

[sandymere 8,261]

Not the first time they have killed first worried later

 

http://www.germanshepherdrescue.co.uk/pet-dog-slaughter-RSPCA-style.html

 

 

in fact they just tend to kill

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2254729/RSPCA-destroys-HALF-animals-rescues--thousands-completely-healthy.html#

who protects who????

 

 

[Kay 3,709]

Years ago when I took ferrets in I had an rspca aco drop off ferrets to me regular & in all fairness he was a decent chap , it was in the days when you could get Nuvan Top as he used to bring me cans of the stuff .... he told me that sometimes he had to put animals to sleep because there simply was no place to take them & regularly took animals to his house to save them being destroyed

 

He became so disheartened with the organisation as a whole he took early retirement , in recent years we have seen case after case being thrown out of court because lack of evidence & no apology to the people whose lives have been turned upside down by the accusations made about them & the seizure of dogs in particular & in some cases lengthy battles to get dogs handed back to there rightful owner .

 

The sickening way the animal in the bag in the photograph has been skinned & basically butchered IMO needs bringing to the attention of the RCVS , I am sure they will be interested in having a look at the contents & maybe they can shed some light as to why the animal has been skinned because I have spent hours googling '' why would a vet skin a dog'' & I can find bugger all .... its quite simply barbaric & needs addressing

[mushroom 12,387]

Years ago when I took ferrets in I had an rspca aco drop off ferrets to me regular & in all fairness he was a decent chap , it was in the days when you could get Nuvan Top as he used to bring me cans of the stuff .... he told me that sometimes he had to put animals to sleep because there simply was no place to take them & regularly took animals to his house to save them being destroyed

 

He became so disheartened with the organisation as a whole he took early retirement , in recent years we have seen case after case being thrown out of court because lack of evidence & no apology to the people whose lives have been turned upside down by the accusations made about them & the seizure of dogs in particular & in some cases lengthy battles to get dogs handed back to there rightful owner .

 

The sickening way the animal in the bag in the photograph has been skinned & basically butchered IMO needs bringing to the attention of the RCVS , I am sure they will be interested in having a look at the contents & maybe they can shed some light as to why the animal has been skinned because I have spent hours googling '' why would a vet skin a dog'' & I can find bugger all .... its quite simply barbaric & needs addressing

They are all the same when it comes to ferrets. I used to rescue ferrets for them! Basically they would phone me and I would go get the ferret from wherever it was as they refused to handle them. They would put them straight to sleep and as it happened a friend worked for them who knew I was a stinker lover ..... She no longer works for them, when she quit the calls stopped