Money is the only reason behind these courses ,nothing more nothing less.A quick fix to achieve something that others have spent years to work towards .I for one will NOT be sitting anything and i know many more the same .Been said before but it should never have been allowed in the first place.Proper f****d it for you boys up north l t.I do feel the doom mungering by Cap is heresay though ,something he would want implemented rather than whats coming .My FEO is adament its voluntary and will be for the foreseeable future .Its a quick fix for those who cant be arsed to serve the time in the field.level 2 witnesses are paid after all whereas a mentor is not .
What has never sat well with me is that a lad can be out in the field from scratch within a year on these courses ,sooner if hes minted whereas the likes of most i know have graduated from calibre to calibre learning along the way ,finally moving up to a deer calibre in a journey taking 10 years or more .I can honestly say hand on heart i would much rather spend time with a lad like this rather than a quick fixer feeling his way with a deer rifle FFS.
I know Cap has served the time but there are those that think they know it all having that wretched piece of paper .
First and foremost Foxdropper Some of what you say I have to agree with you especially it being money making, (Initially many years ago when it was instigated by the BDS it wasnt and it was designed and implemented to further the education on all species of wild deer found in the British isles along with giving the potential stalker a grounding on F.C laws and basic balistics. ) But the goal posts have moved somewhat and are continually being moved. Whether you think I am scaremongering or not I have seem and been at the brunt of these changes during my involvement in Deerstalking and wildlife control and its my firm belief along with others who are directly involved in the system that further changes will affect us all. Notwithstanding the need to have a condition of trained certificated deer dogs being one of the changes afoot . this will be a condition shortly that a deerstalker most have at least access to such an animal even if he dosent own one. The goal posts are being moved as we speak.
Yes I have come up the hard way and yes I have DSC1-DSC2 and National Woodland Stalkers certificate and Both Lantra certificates for Large and small game.
I agree it dosent make me a better stalker than the chap who hasnt got them but what it does do it gaurantees to some extent my stalking anywhere which those havent got the paperwork will struggle to get.I should add it also gives me the authority to over rule any safety sho oting implications set by the police in respect of safety as that decision is mine.
As regards DSC2 training and charges I accept that their are those stalkers out there that do charge for taking out candidates but we dont and the only charges we make to help lads get the accreditation when accompanied on their leases are fuel costs there and back. in other words our out of pocket expenses. This is carried out directly with my partner who is a regional assessor.
If any one wishes for me to train them in preparation for DSC 2 again I will take them out on there own leases /land and again I expect my out of pocket fuel costs only to be met.
If someone wishes for me to take them out stalking on my controlled grounds they will be charged for my services and pay the going rate for the venison which all goes back into the syndication to meet running cost in maintenance in the wildlife scheme. in other words we are here to help lads get this paperwork and here to help lads learn . Both Wildlife Management and habitat control.
I should add older long standing stalkers resent and thrash their guts out rebelling against this paperwork and like yourself refuse to to do it and are not prepared to part with money. You can thrash as much as you like but in the end you will be the looser and be bereft of the opportunities enjoyed by those who have the sense to be part of the system. My advice is irrespective of it being a money making scheme which to some extent you may be right but you wont beat it or even come close. So grit your teeth and get on with it because if you dont your the only looser. Your Choice !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited by Caprelous, 12 April 2014 - 08:25 am.