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#16 wilbur foxhound

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 07:28 pm

it says they will help red squirrels by eating greys instead,i would like to see a predator running past a red squirrel to get to a grey squirrel,wf



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 07:33 pm

it says they will help red squirrels by eating greys instead,i would like to see a predator running past a red squirrel to get to a grey squirrel,wf

There saying what they think will had weight to there reasoning to release ,hoping some one will give them some extra funding,they have no idea of the killing ability of them, 



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 03:38 am

why are most introduction programs predators?


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#19 Alimac2

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:20 am

why are most introduction programs predators?


Apart from the bustard (&f***ing beaver) I can't think of any non predatory species being reintroduced, it boils my piss more than most things

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:42 am

Is the bustard still going?or did it fail.

#21 Alimac2

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 06:48 am

I think there going well, bar the foxes eating alot of the eggs / chicks

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:01 am

a no from me a predator with exceptional climbing skills and a tuned in nose and no restrictions on its management another cock up waiting to happen leave well alone in my opinion



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:26 am

In the last 10 or 12 years here in Ireland the Pine Martin has spread to every county and is now being seen in towns. There have been road kills in many large towns.

The spread of forestry has probably been the biggest factor but there have been rumours of introductions.

If a survey was done now in Eire IMO it would tell (not that the Wildlife Service would listen) that the Pine Marten is not wanted.

It has made poultry keeping and game rearing impractical in many areas and has to have a big impact of all bird life.

I know of one poultry keeper who thinking he was trapping mink around his fowl actually trapped 35 martens in a couple of years. He only learnt his mistake when he took a few out of the freezer to show someone. 

No wildlife catchment area can take that sort of pressure.



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 10:58 pm

because as has been stated , there aint no mileage in reintroducing something harmless

 

Martins are like the polecat tarzan of the trees

as if we don't have enough fecking vermin to contend with



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Posted 17 March 2014 - 11:10 pm

Is the bustard still going?or did it fail.


The bustard reintroduction is going very well they have third generation birds nesting laying and rearing wild ... They have even started to leave Wiltshire and nest in joining counties ..........
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:02 pm

 

why are most introduction programs predators?


Apart from the bustard (&f*****g beaver) I can't think of any non predatory species being reintroduced, it boils my piss more than most things

 

 

They’re doing water voles not far from me; not exactly re-introduction, but adding to the numbers like. That’s how it should be; fixing ecosystems from the bottom upwards.



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:03 pm

The uk has lost 3 types of lemming and at least 2 types of vole why not spend some time trying to reintroduce a prey animal to the environment which would benefit the predators we have rather than spend more time and money chasing the infamy of reintroducing yet another apex predator all I see here is as ever yet another vanity led study.

I guess there is no kudos in reintroducing a vole?

 

I don’t suppose you know the names of the species of the voles and lemmings that have died out?

I’m interested in that type of thing.



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:16 pm

Wouldn't surprise me if there already there , some do gooder dropping off a couple of trapped pairs

#29 Alimac2

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:18 pm

why are most introduction programs predators?

Apart from the bustard (&f*****g beaver) I can't think of any non predatory species being reintroduced, it boils my piss more than most things
 They’re doing water voles not far from me; not exactly re-introduction, but adding to the numbers like. That’s how it should be; fixing ecosystems from the bottom upwards.
Couldn't agree any more with your last sentence, surely it's just common sense??

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 08:26 pm

Haven't they brought back Cranes to the UK??....love to see them over here,we've plenty of habitat for them too.




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