The Badger Cull

[cocpops 19]

What`s your views on this Badger Cull thats taking place in one or two shires.

There seems to be trouble brewing by the Anti Brigade who oppose the Kill but the Farmers in the UK had to destroy 350,000 cattle over the past decade, that`s 35000 each year. This isn`t covered by insurance and is a direct loss to the farmer.

 

The bovine TB is passed from the Badger to the Cattle through the badgers urinating onto grass which the cattle eat.

 

 

The farming Industry is trying hard to eradicate the disease but claim without tackling the TB in badgers it would be pointless.

 

Which makes sense to me, whats your views ?

[lapin2008 1,587]

The 'cull' is just a big waste of money IMO.

Be much easier if they just lifted the badgers protected status and let the farmers control or get lads in to control their own badgers if they have problems with badgers on their land.

 

Edited to add: would be much less publicity and agro if they handled it this way IMO, having an official cull with the amount strong feelings on the subject is just a political timebomb IMO

[torchey 1,202]

Theres to many badgers about without a doubt you,ve only got to look at whats in the roads to realise that..lots of rentamob anti,s down here at the minute being pricks but they,ll probably f**k off when they run out of skunk

[paulus 26]

with no effective vaccine available to immunize cattle for at least the next 10 years and no way to vaccinate with 100% certainty all the badgers in a given area, then a cull is the only logical option but it would have been far simpler and cheaper to have just removed there protected status and leave individual farmers to deal with it at local level. instead of a whole boatload of red tape and publicity.

[Bunny Boiler 177]

with no effective vaccine available to immunize cattle for at least the next 10 years and no way to vaccinate with 100% certainty all the badgers in a given area, then a cull is the only logical option but it would have been far simpler and cheaper to have just removed there protected status and leave individual farmers to deal with it at local level. instead of a whole boatload of red tape and publicity.

You are right in a sense. But badgers are social family orientated animals. If amateurs start hammering badgers and not killing the whole family in a sett, you risk those badgers being displaced which, assuming these badgers even had TB, would cause them to increase the likeliness of them passing it cattle or even more badgers. Not saying you're wrong, just that there are draw backs to any method.

[torchey 1,202]

Agree with paulus it should have been left to the farmers, dirty badgers get rid clean ones keep simple..

[smithie 2,424]

the farmers need to make a living and keep the price of beef down for an ever increasing population but although a cull will help down south it wont help the norther farmer..

 

maybe the farmer should be able to apply/register to have some body clear his land by what ever method allowed. im sure the farmer would see it as progress but i dont think the protected status will ever get removed

[paulus 26]

 

with no effective vaccine available to immunize cattle for at least the next 10 years and no way to vaccinate with 100% certainty all the badgers in a given area, then a cull is the only logical option but it would have been far simpler and cheaper to have just removed there protected status and leave individual farmers to deal with it at local level. instead of a whole boatload of red tape and publicity.

You are right in a sense. But badgers are social family orientated animals. If amateurs start hammering badgers and not killing the whole family in a sett, you risk those badgers being displaced which, assuming these badgers even had TB, would cause them to increase the likeliness of them passing it cattle or even more badgers. Not saying you're wrong, just that there are draw backs to any method.

 

the fact they are family orientated makes culling a far easier task than if they were solitary

[whippet 99 2,613]

im glad they got the wounded badger patrol team ,.............out day and night looking for wounded ones,..............

I don't think there will be too many wandering around ,.......after all they get paid for what they take back to defra............

there all fecking loons,..................as for the cull I think its been gone over enough with the options and the most effective decision has been made.....

[stealthy1 3,964]

I don't know how an animal that does more harm than good in the countryside managed to attain such a high level of protection.

[Bunny Boiler 177]

 

 

 

with no effective vaccine available to immunize cattle for at least the next 10 years and no way to vaccinate with 100% certainty all the badgers in a given area, then a cull is the only logical option but it would have been far simpler and cheaper to have just removed there protected status and leave individual farmers to deal with it at local level. instead of a whole boatload of red tape and publicity.

You are right in a sense. But badgers are social family orientated animals. If amateurs start hammering badgers and not killing the whole family in a sett, you risk those badgers being displaced which, assuming these badgers even had TB, would cause them to increase the likeliness of them passing it cattle or even more badgers. Not saying you're wrong, just that there are draw backs to any method.

the fact they are family orientated makes culling a far easier task than if they were solitary

Thats if you dig them, but even then, you need to dig the entire set up because they live in chambers, unlike foxes which live in a dead end tunnel. Shooting them is not always going to remove the whole family group. They hear one or two shots and hit the deck. Then you cant take any more out. Like I said, theres no perfect method, only the most effective. Interestingly, the BBC program the burrowers is offering a huge insight to how rabbits, moles, and badgers live. Know your enemy.

 

Atb, BB

[whippet 99 2,613]

 

 

 

with no effective vaccine available to immunize cattle for at least the next 10 years and no way to vaccinate with 100% certainty all the badgers in a given area, then a cull is the only logical option but it would have been far simpler and cheaper to have just removed there protected status and leave individual farmers to deal with it at local level. instead of a whole boatload of red tape and publicity.

You are right in a sense. But badgers are social family orientated animals. If amateurs start hammering badgers and not killing the whole family in a sett, you risk those badgers being displaced which, assuming these badgers even had TB, would cause them to increase the likeliness of them passing it cattle or even more badgers. Not saying you're wrong, just that there are draw backs to any method.

the fact they are family orientated makes culling a far easier task than if they were solitary

Thats if you dig them, but even then, you need to dig the entire set up because they live in chambers, unlike foxes which live in a dead end tunnel. Shooting them is not always going to remove the whole family group. They hear one or two shots and hit the deck. Then you cant take any more out. Like I said, theres no perfect method, only the most effective. Interestingly, the BBC program the burrowers is offering a huge insight to how rabbits, moles, and badgers live. Know your enemy.

 

Atb, BB

 

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

We were talking about all this in the pub, only yesterday. Your lot are f**king priceless! Your 'Generals' stand up and clearly state:

 

" We shall be attacking Sector 9, in Wltshire. (OS Co ordinates xxx/xxx). The attack will be launched at precisely blah hundred hours. It shall consist of ..... "

 

So on and so forth. And it's All loudly broadcast to the f**king 'enemy', as far in advance as can be possible! And then, 'your Generals' wonder why the whole plan is squarely pounded into abject route by the 'enemy'! So, they beat a squalid retreat for yet another year or three. FFS.

 

Here? Shhhh!!! Someone turns up at Pat's farm, at That time of year. Tells Pat' he'll be active for so long. Asks for any local Intel that might aid him. Then, he's gone. Vanishing into the mist. And PDQ, so are the f**king badgers!

 

I don't know what, if any, political wrangling brought this situation about. But, it sure as hell didn't involve any shower of c***s like an 'SPCA' or washed up guitar plucker and his herd.

 

Badgers. Islamists. Eastern European criminals ..... Are you seeing a pattern emerge here? Your whole countries simply being carved up and flogged off, by those elected to look after Your interests.

 

I don't know the answer. But, I'd personally be fascinated to sit back and watch a Military Coup.

 

[C Hall 552]

Bunny Boiler you should change your name to bunny hugger

[johnc. 36]

The department of agriculture snare them over here.Send them off for testing for the TB virus and concentrate on that area.

It works well,i dont hear as many farmers talk of been down with TB as years back.

Its some pain in the arse,not being able to sell livestock for 2 years when after testing positive!