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#196 riflehunter583

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 08:58 am

 

Talk about give ammo to the antis ......the minute all dog work goes , the next in line is the gun ....then the rod ....if that's todays acceptable society leave me out . Enjoy doing what you do & leave everyone else to do the same ,slagging another mans sport is a recipe for disaster ..

 

 

The trouble with today' society is that when you look back through history it was always live and let live.

 

Now many of the left of society believe their way is the right way and they have the right to dictate how other people should live.

 

If they don't like guns, they're shouldn't be guns. If they don't like private landowners, then they should have the right to trample over their land even though most of the land concerned has never been open to the public. If they don't like big houses, then builders should have a new standard of building smaller houses so they fit more in and build estates more like theirs.

 

Now I'm not saying everyone of a certain political persuasion is like this as I don't intend to turn this into a party political debate. But my real point is that elements of society have lost the concept that just because you don't agree with everything personally, it doesn't mean its not right, and it doesn't mean others shouldn't have the right to enjoy it.

 

I mean to give another non shooting example - fireworks. Anyone in the UK will know that some people love them, some people hate them. But over the last few years, those that hate them instead of accepting others enjoy them, have been going all out to get them banned, essentially on the basis that they don't like them because they scare animals, they make too much noise etc etc.

 

In fact I'm going to throw a couple more examples in, not long ago a long established butchers shop that had been there 40 or 50 years from memory, was banned from cutting meat in a morning because a new tenant upstairs objected to the sound of the cleaver. There have been examples of people moving into the countryside and then making noise complaints over farm animals and tractors tilling crops.

 

That is what society has come down to...

 

 

my neighbour is like that. they brought/inherited a house in the countryside. the field next to them was muck spread. so they complained to the farmer of the smell!!!!!!



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:04 am

:D I cant stand it any longer, that naughty Rimmer is such a tease lol, I would defend with my last breath the right of a man to run his dog on whatever quarry he chooses, and would never slag another mans sport, a good lurcher or terrier is worth its weight in gold, the problem as I see it is this, because their sport has unfortunately been curtailed by the hunting act, the lurcher and terrier boys(of which I count myself one, although I have no dogs at present) have a big axe to grind and probably feel to some extent let down by the fieldsports community in general, on the one hand it has drawn them all closer together, as they feel as if they are a poor relation now, on the other hand it has created a lot of sour grapes(understandably) and it must hurt when they see other sections of the fs community continuing to carry on largely unhampered, but putting forward the notion that foxes and hares are the sole preserve of themselves and should never be shot (as some seem to think) is quite frankly stupidity and divisive, WE ALL NEED TO STAND TOGETHER AS A UNITED FRONT, we have enough enemies without bickering like school children about bleedin foxes. Rant over.


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:24 am

there is no room for cruelty in fieldsports. things change and we need to keep pace with the changes or it will all be over for all of us. 



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:37 am

Iv never known so many folk get sucked into a load of pish like this thread has..!! You've done well rimmer ;-)
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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:42 am

Iv never known so many folk get sucked into a load of pish like this thread has..!! You've done well rimmer ;-)

I thank you sir,



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 09:43 am

It would not make the slightest difference if you zapped them with a ray gun from outer space, antis don't care what methods we employ or why, we are all seen as anachronistic  Neanderthal  sadists that have no place in our lovely liberal, pc bullshit modern society, where children should not have knives or get dirty, or do nasty things like catch poor minnows, the divide between town and country is vast, if asked where milk comes from lots of inner city kids would answer a bottle, well all I can say is bo--ocks to them  now where is my club :D  



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:25 am

Any one got a good Lurcher for sale ?? :angel:



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:40 am

there is no room for cruelty in fieldsports. things change and we need to keep pace with the changes or it will all be over for all of us. 

 

well batten down the hatches as i cant walk the dogs on some of the ground i walk due to a killing spree. with a licenced gun owner. and as i write this there is a report on the news of a shooting incident in england :icon_eek: .  



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:47 am

There is no reason to chase animals all over the country side in order to kill them, those days should have gone along with the black death and polio. Your out of date and out of touch with what is legal and acceptable to todays society.

Acceptable by who,people who take no time to understand what they see, and pass judgement on other peoples methods,I have used most methods and all have there place in the hunting scene,controlling foxes isn't for the amusement of a few with rifles, its a serious business when you lost lambs at a potential of  £70 a throw,and the farmers waiting for the gob shite rifle man to turn up, who promised to be there when ever he called,and cant make it for another week,and even then he cant stay all night,I will tell you this, you watch the farmer welcome the terrier man with open arms then,controlling foxe's is a job of very high  importance to a farmer,and the traditional methods used have been successful for hundreds of years,and regularly brought communities together, young, old, rich, and poor,and I for one cant sit back and say [I am alright jack ]sod everyone else,My pass times catered for,to think of the job's lost,I normally have time for what you say, but this comment is a load of shite and I hope you said it just to wind people up,

  

There is no reason to chase animals all over the country side in order to kill them, those days should have gone along with the black death and polio. Your out of date and out of touch with what is legal and acceptable to todays society.

I ask YOU a question do you disagree with our fathers and grand fathers way of life? do you think the gun is the only way forward? if you do you are deluded. can you tell me why your a better hunter with your gun than I am with my dogs when we get to the same end. you as I like to see our prey in the cross hairs but I also like to see my dog on the chase and do his job. with gun or dog there's still the same end.

Look boys I do feel there is a place for those of you with terriers, as long as there are rats terriers will always have a job

So morally what is the difference between a terrier coursing catching and killing a rat and a lurcher doing the same to a hare
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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:02 am

you got that right.

 

big divide between town folk and country folk.



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 11:23 am

 

 

 

There is no reason to chase animals all over the country side in order to kill them, those days should have gone along with the black death and polio. Your out of date and out of touch with what is legal and acceptable to todays society.

Acceptable by who,people who take no time to understand what they see, and pass judgement on other peoples methods,I have used most methods and all have there place in the hunting scene,controlling foxes isn't for the amusement of a few with rifles, its a serious business when you lost lambs at a potential of  £70 a throw,and the farmers waiting for the gob shite rifle man to turn up, who promised to be there when ever he called,and cant make it for another week,and even then he cant stay all night,I will tell you this, you watch the farmer welcome the terrier man with open arms then,controlling foxe's is a job of very high  importance to a farmer,and the traditional methods used have been successful for hundreds of years,and regularly brought communities together, young, old, rich, and poor,and I for one cant sit back and say [I am alright jack ]sod everyone else,My pass times catered for,to think of the job's lost,I normally have time for what you say, but this comment is a load of shite and I hope you said it just to wind people up,

 

  

 

There is no reason to chase animals all over the country side in order to kill them, those days should have gone along with the black death and polio. Your out of date and out of touch with what is legal and acceptable to todays society.

I ask YOU a question do you disagree with our fathers and grand fathers way of life? do you think the gun is the only way forward? if you do you are deluded. can you tell me why your a better hunter with your gun than I am with my dogs when we get to the same end. you as I like to see our prey in the cross hairs but I also like to see my dog on the chase and do his job. with gun or dog there's still the same end.

 

Look boys I do feel there is a place for those of you with terriers, as long as there are rats terriers will always have a job

 

So morally what is the difference between a terrier coursing catching and killing a rat and a lurcher doing the same to a hare
geordie

 

In my eye's none, that shouldn't be banned either,


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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:06 pm

Iv never known so many folk get sucked into a load of pish like this thread has..!! You've done well rimmer ;-)


I still think he's been shit at it....:-)
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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:29 pm

 

 

So morally what is the difference between a terrier coursing catching and killing a rat and a lurcher doing the same to a hare
geordie

 

well a rat is a horrible little bugger and hare is a lovely animal that should be left to get on with its life. its all about perception. no one cares about rats so the doggy boys are welcome to them. anything bigger should be left to be cleanly dispatched by rifle. its more humaine.

You just have to look at lurcher to know they are raggy old muts from a bygone age. the breed should be left to go extinct like pit bulls and the like.



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:37 pm

 

 

 

So morally what is the difference between a terrier coursing catching and killing a rat and a lurcher doing the same to a hare
geordie

 

well a rat is a horrible little bugger and hare is a lovely animal that should be left to get on with its life. its all about perception. no one cares about rats so the doggy boys are welcome to them. anything bigger should be left to be cleanly dispatched by rifle. its more humaine.

You just have to look at lurcher to know they are raggy old muts from a bygone age. the breed should be left to go extinct like pit bulls and the like.

 

FFS Rimmer  you are asking for it lol, must be boring at work today, you will be getting abusive pms next :D



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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:40 pm

cant think why you would say that!!!!!




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