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Absolute tosh :yes:

 

Show me these 'laws' you are quoting please Kranky.

 

Here in the UK cats remain property regardless of where they are, or if they are wearing a collar.

 

The only correct thing you've stated in that post is that you don't have to stop if you run one over; unlike dogs.

 

And before you suggest it, the Abandonment of Animals Act was repealed some time ago....

 

Please, don't come on here giving such poor advice. The fact is, you are never allowed to willfully kill a cat unless you are prepared to stand up in court and explain to a magistrate what 'reasonable' measures you took to ensure it was feral.

How about you provide the laws that you quoted prior to my post? You started to produce facts about law without any evidence, first.

 

I am prepared to stand up in front of a magistrate and tell them that I killed a cat that was on my property. It would never be heard before a magistrate and would never get to court. Provide evidence of one case where it has happened.

 

Please don't come on here giving such poor advice because your hand hovers over the delete or ban button and you believe you have the right to be sanctimonious and no one should question you.

 

 

Maybe you should report me to the RSPCA for humanely killing a cat and see how far those lunatics want to pursue it. I can tell you, from

personal experience, that it isn't anything that they want to get involved with.

:lol: @ Kranky.....

 

I could quote endless acts of parliament at you, or even just refer you to Parkes and Thornley (which is the defininitive guide to rural law) but I'm not going to... :no:

 

Why?

 

Because there is no point.

 

You'd rather believe a charity like the RSPCA when it comes to legal matters.

 

You crack on lad. And when you've stood in front of that magistrate, pop back on here and let us know how you've got on......... :lol:

That's my point, I've not had to stand in front of the magistrate and the RSPCA refused to get involved. You carry on laughing, you're not the font of all knowledge.

 

Are you the same Matt the rat, pest controller, that used to post on Jacks Shed?

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Maybe you should report me to the RSPCA for humanely killing a cat and see how far those lunatics want to pursue it. I can tell you, from

personal experience, that it isn't anything that they want to get involved with.

 

I really shouldn't indulge you but...

 

Here's an actual proseuction for killing a domestic cat on a farm with a single humane shot:

 

http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/teen-could-be-jailed-for-shooting-cat-1.77764?referrerPath=home/2.1962

 

The guy claimed it was an accident through mistaken identity. Doesn't say the final outcome but he was found guilty of Criminal Damage and the case adjorned whilst the Courts considered whether or not to sentance him to prison.

 

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...and if you believe the RSPCA won't be bothered to pursue you, think again.

 

This was a case of a serving Police Officer who in the execution of his duty came across an injured cat which had been run over in the street and killied it humanely with a shovel (There's no suggestion the killing was anything less than humane).

 

The RSPCA pursued him for 2 years through the Courts at a cost of £50,000.

 

Although the Courts did aquit him, this was because:

 

1. The cat was mortally injured to start with

 

2. The guy was a serving Police Officer executing his duty in difficult circumstances (see the judges reported comments).

 

Therefore a Court would not likely be lenient in the case of a member of the public who killed a cat merely because it was on their land (especially bearing in mind such a killing would be unlawful in the UK)

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1515201/Two-years-and-50000-later-ordeal-of-policeman-who-put-dying-cat-out-of-its-misery-is-finally-over.html

I suspect you have reasons for not wishing to indulge me, as I do for you. So..................

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Kranky, the fact that the RSPCA chose not to pursue you doesn't make it legal.

 

Yes, I was a member of JS until Justin got upset about me asking if it really was sensible posting about killing game out of season.

 

Why? (and I'd urge caution here).

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I suspect you have reasons for not wishing to indulge me, as I do for you. So..................

 

 

Yep I don't want to keep feeding the troll and wasting time on posts you clearly are going to ignore anyway.

 

As Matt has said, you make your own choices. At the end of the day, if you kill a non feral cat and someone reports you, it will be you left to justify your actions and it will be you facing prison not me.

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Lol Dan, I tried mate but I reckon the heat got me down.

Should be near you next month. Been needing to wait til I get paid before shopping!

Made myself a second high seat last weekend. Needs finishing and netting up but should offer me some better Charlie angles.

The fallow and sika be back in then mate hope you get chance to pop in

 

Atb Dan

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I suspect you have reasons for not wishing to indulge me, as I do for you. So..................

 

 

Yep I don't want to keep feeding the troll and wasting time on posts you clearly are going to ignore anyway.

 

As Matt has said, you make your own choices. At the end of the day, if you kill a non feral cat and someone reports you, it will be you left to justify your actions and it will be you facing prison not me.

 

Prison? Really? Stop being silly.

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Kranky, the fact that the RSPCA chose not to pursue you doesn't make it legal.

 

Yes, I was a member of JS until Justin got upset about me asking if it really was sensible posting about killing game out of season.

 

Why? (and I'd urge caution here).

Why would you urge caution? A thinly veiled online threat? Or a misuse of power in an attempt to prove that you're correct.

 

You adopted much the same attitude over at JS as you do here, although you had no moderator status over there.

 

In real life you aren't so vocal and don't say much or challenge people. Maybe your keyboard acts as some form of security. I met you in Justin's kitchen, some years ago, after you'd given me the benefit of your pious attitude in a forum thread. You seemed humble and juxtaposed to your online persona. You didn't urge me to be cautious then.................................you just left.

 

I'm different to my online persona too, I speak a lot differently and I'm a little more brusque. But I will still challenge people and will stand by what I've said to people online.

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Why would you urge caution? A thinly veiled online threat? Or a misuse of power in an attempt to prove that you're correct.

Why would I urge caution?

 

Simple answer; because certain things were said about me on that forum that were incorrect.

 

In fact, they were so incorrect, that I had to involve a solicitor to get them removed.

 

It's not a threat of any sort; I was simply urging you to show caution and restraint, and not do what J did on his forum which resulted in it being pulled and him being under the real threat of legal action.

 

You adopted much the same attitude over at JS as you do here, although you had no moderator status over there.

I adopt the same attitude wherever I am, and while I appreciate it isn't to everyone's liking, I am what I am, and I'm not about to start apologising for it.

 

In real life you aren't so vocal and don't say much or challenge people. Maybe your keyboard acts as some form of security. I met you in Justin's kitchen, some years ago, after you'd given me the benefit of your pious attitude in a forum thread. You seemed humble and juxtaposed to your online persona. You didn't urge me to be cautious then.................................you just left.

Yes, I vaguely remember meeting you. That was just after I'd taught J how to knit nets and gone out with him to help him catch his first rabbit.

 

I think you'll find I left for two reasons. Firstly, because good manners mean that when someone has a visitor I don't like to intrude, and secondly, because I had somewhere else to be.

 

I'm different to my online persona too, I speak a lot differently and I'm a little more brusque. But I will still challenge people and will stand by what I've said to people online.

Sorry, but I'm the same face to face as I am online. There are plenty of folks on this forum (and a few who have left) who have met me and can confirm that.

 

If you want to start some sort of character assassination, I suggest you take it to PM as it's not fair on other forum users to air your grievances with me in public.

 

Back to the original point; as has been pointed out to you Cats are private property no matter where they are, and killing them amounts to criminal damage. You've been shown the evidence of that and if you wish to dispute it that's fine; just do it elsewhere.

 

You take your own chances in life; it's up to you what you do or don't do, but please don't give wrong legal advice to other forum members.

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There's no character assasination from me, i can assure you. I'm unaware of the problems that you had and if it was detrimental to your business, family or reputation, then I'd have had no part of it. I may call someone an idiot or worse, as a bit of forum banter but I'm not out to ruin anyone's life.

 

I'm sure you did teach him to make nets, much as I gave him his frst catapult and showed him how effective they are. His catapult business started after that.

 

My reference to our meeting was more to reiterate that I'm not a moron or someone who's been at this hunting lark for 5 minutes and knows it all. Maybe people calling me a troll may have been under that impression as they tried to climb up your back passage.

 

 

 

Anyway, to sum up, you're saying that we should kill cats discretely and not publicise the fact? I'm prepared to concede to you and take your advice. Thanks. Gotta go, I'm off to pick up a box of No. 4's and a tin of Felix.

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OK, fair enough Kranky...

 

I don't think you are a moron, and if I've said that then I apologise :thumbs:

 

And no, I'm not suggesting that people kill cats discretely or otherwise.

 

I think everyone has had a good say on this one; time to lock up. If anyone wants it unlocked drop me a PM.

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