BINOCULARS

[watchmaker 0]

BINOCULARS

 

Hi guys,

The big brown truck and the nice man that brings goodies to the house stopped yesterday with a package from Cabela’s.

I was deprived from sleep for the five days that it took between order and delivery, but finally the Nikon Monarch ATB 8x40 binoculars are here, and I will sleep soundly tonight.

 

 

Although I have quite a few binoculars in my safe, I don’t have nearly as many of them as I do flashlights (most of you know me as the crazy guy that owns all those flashlights); but fear not, I am getting there.

So it occurred to me that I should make a post about binoculars for those that are bored of hearing about my lights.

I had owned quite a good amount of binoculars since I bought my first as a 15 year-old with an itch about optics. I even owned an expensive Zeiss when I was single and didn’t had a family to take care of.

And I am here to tell you that the quality, brightness, sharpness, and durability of the new binoculars now on the market; it is better than ever.

Not long ago, if we wanted all these features in a good binocular the choice was between spending a thousand in a Zeiss, Swarosvki, Leica or Minox or looking for good Porro prisms in the Nikon or Pentax lines.

But since a couple of years ago, the Japanese starting coating the roof prisms of their binoculars with Phase Coating, and the sharpness and definition of their roof prism binos had increased to the point to rival the European imports from the big four, and all at very modest cost.

 

Take, for example, the Nikon Monarch ATB (All terrain binocular) 8x42 I just received, or my Pentax DCF WP 8x42 that I bought last year.

 

 

 

All lenses are fully multicoated (that means all surfaces, not only the glass to air surfaces) prisms are phased-corrected and have mirror-coated lower prisms (not cheap aluminum). They have blackened tubes to avoid reflections and are waterproof and fog proof; they have a nice outer coating of rubber (silent) and very good ergonomics. I particularly like the twist eye cups for eye-glass wearers and the ample eye relief: no problem using it with my glasses and instant acquisition of the picture even with glasses on.

 

 

All that can be said for the Nikon Monarch can be said also of my Pentax DCF WP 8x42, except for the weight: the Nikon is lighter at 22 ounces but I don’t know how much my Pentax weighs until I get a new battery for my fish scale.

 

I like the approach of securing the objective caps to the body of the binocular that the Nikon uses as well. I had to get creative with the Pentax and cook up something home-made to hold the caps to the binocular body.

I did the usual checking for good prisms by holding the binos a few inches away and looking at the light spot in the ocular lens, nice and round without any hint of flattening, just like I was expecting. I checked collimation by holding it a few inches away and pointing them at the yellow line in the road, straight and sharp with not sign of being distorted.

To test the sharpness and resolution most people look from the inside to the outside thru an open window, and most binoculars will perform well under those conditions. I look for a dark corner in the room and try to read some labels or a newspaper print set for the occasion; that is what separates the mediocre from the good or great binoculars.

 

As the Nikon and the Pentax are so the same in quality I tried to spot any optical differences between them by perching one on top of the other and alternatively looking thru them. After several minutes of this I have to admit that they are both the same optical quality as far as my eyes can tell, without resorting to an optical laboratory.

 

 

I have looked thru many Swarovski and Zeiss lenses, (I hunt the stores) superb optical quality in those glasses. I can tell you for sure than the new Nikon and Pentax are almost the equal of those expensive brands; that I only paid just over $300 with shipping for such a superb glass as the Nikon still amazes me.

 

Kind regards,

Watchmaker

[Hob&Jill 258]

I dont understand expensive binoculars, I got a pair for 20 quid, hawke cheapo's. Seem good enough quality to me

 

Some of the ones in the stalking adverts are like £700+, with the same 8x40 as mine. Convince me, what advantage do the REALLY expensive binoculars have? Mine seem fine, I couldnt count the hairs on a deers ass but why would I need that good?

 

Cheers, H&J

[SINDASOX 255]

You get what you pay for, and when you are paying that kind of money, you are getting PURE QUALITY OPTICS, i'm sure Watchmaker will explain in more detail.

 

SINDASOX

[watchmaker 0]

Hob&Jill,

Quality optics have a lot of expensive glass that correct for aberrations and distortions that your cheaper glasses don't, besides quality manufacturing and attention to detail in aligning optics ensure that you can glass for many hours without getting a headache.

 

Multi coating in the optics let you see into depper shadows and late into dusk when others cheap binoculars have quit.

 

You probably are not interested in the hairs on the deer derriere, but with good glasses you are able to tell if the deer is a trophy and judge how much it will score, with the murky glasses you can tell only that he has something sticking out of its head.

 

Besides using good optics is a joy, take your cheap glasses to a store with quality glasses for a side by side comparison, and you will "see".

 

My next posting will explain a little what you should be looking for.

 

Cheers

Watchmaker

Edited August 17, 2007 by watchmaker

[watchmaker 0]

LEUPOLD YOSEMITE 6X 30MM

PORRO PRISMS BINOCULARS

 

Hi Guys:

Some things are changing in the world of optics. It uses to be that you had to spend a good chunk of money to get good optics; after all, it is difficult and requires expensive lenses, expensive anti-reflection treatment, some quality components, and precise work to mount it all and to get the optics to perform as they should.

 

Some optical aberrations and distortions can only be corrected the best possible. It is difficult to make good glasses to deliver a flat picture of good quality when the light ray has to pass through curved lenses.

But the new computerized optics programs than the optical engineer is using these days has brought a solution to the trial-and-error and time-consuming work that was needed to produce decent binocular blueprints in the old days.

 

They are several factors, beside objective size, that will determine how good the image quality in binoculars will be.

They include optical coating, quality of optics, distortions and aberrations, optical alignment, and manufacturer tolerances.

 

THE LEUPOLD 6X30MM YOSEMITE

 

 

Back in 1970, I came back from the jungles of South America in one piece, but minus my good Zeiss binoculars. In seventy-one, freshly married and planning a trip, I was in need of a binocular, but my budget was $25.00 (you bought a lot of gasoline with $25 in the seventies).

After looking at several on that price range, I selected a 7x35 Porro prisms Sunset (Japanese). It says in big white letters that it is an extra-wide angle (10 degrees), which, at the time, didn’t affect me since my young eyes in those days didn’t need prescription glasses (wide angle will reduce the eye relief, an important consideration to eyeglass wearers). But poor eye relief means that you have to get your eye very close to the lens to see the whole picture, which can put a drop of perspiration on the glass in hot days or fog them in the cold climate.

It also makes it impossible to focus the edges of the glass. The center will be in focus, but the edges will be blurry: this distortion is called “curvature of field,†so keep in mind to stay away from wide field-of-view glasses if you want your picture to be relatively sharp all around.

 

It also says that it has coated optics, which means (and I can see it) that only the exterior lenses have been coated on the outside, and that translates that a good amount of light is going to be lost throughout reflection, making them inferior to glasses that used multi-coating lenses to see in deep shadows and at dusk .

 

LEUPOLD YOSEMITE AND SUNSET BINOCULARS

 

 

 

So brightness and sharpness are affected by the amount and quality of the coating that are used in binoculars- the more the better (as much as seven coats for glass surfaces are been used now). When you think that as much as 4 % of light is lost through reflection from uncoated surfaces and that a binocular uses a total of 14 or more optical glass inside them, you will understand why multi-coats are so important for light transmission.

 

YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE COATING BETWEEN THEM

 

 

 

 

I can see that the lenses in the Sunset haven’t been corrected for chromatic aberrations, which means that the colors will be more muddled if I were looking at birds. Of course, correcting for color needs a set of different glass, all keyed to a certain spectrum on the color scale, which makes binoculars more expensive and will have taken me out of my $25.00 budget in those days.

Be careful of cheap binoculars with big lenses (50 to 60 or more mm of objective), as the bigger the lenses are, the more intense the chromatic aberration will be, unless it is corrected by low dispersion glass that will make the binoculars much more expensive.

 

Good glasses should be corrected for another aberration called “astigmatism,†which is the effect of the light at the edges of the glass that is elongated into an oval that points toward the center. This together with the “curvature of field†tends to make glasses fuzzy toward the edges. I believe my Sunset 7x35 glasses shows a good degree of astigmatism.

 

Of course, my 38 year-old glasses also show a good deal of spherical aberration. There is no way that ray of light passing trough the center of a normal glass can be in the same focus as the ones passing through the edges. This makes the image loss detail. Newer binoculars are now using an aspheric lens (usually in the oculars) that corrects the focus by bringing the center light rays to the same focus as edges rays of light, making the glass brightest and with increased contrast.

 

My Sunset glasses show some “barrel distortion.†Were a straight line placed on the edge of the field of view, it will bow outwards at the center. If that line will bow inwards at the center, it will be called “pin cushion distortion.†Good glasses correct for this distortion with quality glass, although you can still find just a little of it even in expensive glasses.

 

AT LEFT IS A REGULAR OPTICAL GLASS WITH CURVED SURFACES, AT RIGHT IS THE NEW AESPHERICAL LENS

 

 

My Sunset 7x35 binoculars did fine for a few years (I didn’t use them much in low light) until I replaced them in my neck for a Bushnell Custom Compact 6x 25 CF in 1974, which then started my love affair with 6x lenses.

The Bushnell Custom Compact are beautiful binoculars; light, small, and highly good optics that still sells today and is highly sought after by those that don’t want to carry full binoculars when birding or hunting.

 

 

The street price on the Custom Compact is around $250.00, and it is well worth it. I have used mine for years in hikes into the high peaks of the Adirondacks. I think so highly of them that I had bought a pair for my wife in 1976.

The only thing I always wondered was how it would perform in poor light if the objectives were as big as 30 mm instead of 25mm.

Now, after so many years, another 6x binocular has fallen into my hands, thanks to the advice of FirstFreedom, a member of TFL forum.

The Leupold Yosemite Porro prisms 6x30 is in my hands now and a beauty it is, both physically and optically.

 

 

This Leupold is miles ahead of my Sunset 7x35, the comparisons I made in low light gives a great edge to the Leupold even than the objectives are 5mm smaller in the Leupold, and the numbers for exit pupil gives both the same 5mm value (35 mm divided by 7x = 5mm and 30 mm divided by 6x = 5mm of exit pupil). The Leupold outperforms my Sunset glasses, due to better coating and better optics.

I was surprised when I put both in my fish scale because both weigh 1 lb. 1 oz., but the Leupold feels much lighter. The rubber covering and the twist up eye-piece guards are a big asset for the Leupold, as the Sunset doesn’t have any eye-piece guards at all. The Leupold Yosemite comes with a rain guard that is tethered to the elastic strap and regular caps in the objectives. That is one thing I would like to see changed; objectives should be protected with covers, such as the ones find in my Nikon Monarch, that are attached to the binocular body and not by caps that are easily lost.

 

Optically, the Leupold Yosemite is very superior to the Sunset glass. Some aberrations and distortions are still in the glasses, but only in a reduced amount and in the edge of the field of view, and it is okay, because only very high quality glasses like the Swarovski and Zeiss can make those defects disappear almost completely, and after all, most of us look through the center of the field anyway, and not through the edges.

Color seems to be fully corrected in the Yosemite, although I have yet to find a proper test medium to judge it (hummingbirds or woodpeckers).

 

Sharpness and definition are well up in the scale, leaving the Sunset glasses in the dust. That all this optical quality is attained at the cost of only less than a hundred USD is a miracle of new manufacturing techniques. I am well pleased with the new Yosemite binoculars by Leupold, I took a calculated risk when I bought them, based on the Leupold name in others optics and I am well satisfied with what I got and for the little money I got them.

 

Cheers

Watchmaker

[Hob&Jill 258]

Cheers mate that explained alot

[Guest Frank]

Another way to see if bins are good is this.

Spy something 1000yds away then take your eyes off the bins and quickly look at something 15 to 20yds in front of you, if your eyse seem fine, their good. If they go all funny for a while, their crap.

Same as if you spy a long way off with the bins, then bring them back to 15yds again and see how well focused they stay, if its fairly good, then buy them

 

Frank.

[watchmaker 0]

LEUPOLD KATMAI 6X32

BINOCULARS

 

I must be off my rocker. I have binoculars coming out of my ears and I just went out and ordered another.

 

This time the culprit that captured my heart is the Leupold Wind River Katmai binoculars, a roof prism model that is quite compact and light but offers superior viewing compared to full sized premium binoculars.

 

I had seen them before in catalogues such as Cabela’s and Red Head, but I never got interested because I thought they were only available in 8x32.

Having recently bought the Leupold Yosemite 6x30 binoculars, I became interested in seeing what others models they offered and discovered that the Katmai were also available in 6x32.

 

The reason that I am particular about the six power binoculars is that they offer a perfect magnification for the kind of close woods hunting I do.

When available in the 32 mm sized objectives, I am getting a 5.33 mm of exit pupil, giving good quality optics; the right pupil opening for the low light condition that I often glass under. I never saw any reason to own them in 8x32, as I will be getting only a 4 mm of eye pupil: no doubt good for daylight, but no good for the use I put binoculars through.

If I am going to use an eight power, then it will have to have 42 mm objectives to give me 5.25 mm of eye pupil. I already have two great pairs of glasses in that size (the Pentax and the Nikon) and I use them often, but the new Leupold Katmai is going to fulfill the same task, using less bulk and weight, which is important for me in certain instances.

 

Here is a picture of them together so you can appreciate the size difference. From left to right: the Leupold Yosemite 6x30 Porro prisms, the Leuopold Katmai 6x32, the Nikon Monarch 8x42, and the Pentax DCF 8x42.

 

 

I am fifty miles from New York City, so it is not possible for me to go to check binoculars every time I have a whim for them (and it happens often), so I ordered the Katmai over the mail knowing that you will not always get something over the mail that will fulfill your expectations. No such problem occurred with the Katmai binoculars, though: they are great and exactly what I expected them to be for a glass of this price and more.

 

 

I performed the usual checks and was amply satisfied with the optical quality and mechanical precision of the glasses. The ergonomics are also great for a glass of this size, and I was well pleased with my purchase.

One aspect of this purchase is worth mentioning: when looking at the Katmai 8x32 that Cabela's and Red Head have in their catalogues, the price for them was hovering around $400 to $420. I bought the Katmai 6x32 over the web for $289 shipped.

Now the question is how they compare optically with the lower priced ($98) Porro prism Leupold Yosemite binoculars, and if the $200 difference is noticeable in the optical quality.

If that difference is there, I can’t notice it! Both glasses performed well in my low light test and both are sharp and with enough resolution to satisfy the most rabid birdie.

We all know that roof prisms are more expensive and difficult to make well, so part of the money goes toward that end, perhaps of influence in the price is the fact that the Katmai are made in Japan and the Yosemite in China; we know that our money buys more Yuan than Yen.

 

 

So what is going to happen to the Yosemite 6x32 now that my new love is the Katmai? No problem on that end, since my son already declared ownership of the Yosemite, as he recently took them on a trip to Florida’s Everglades, using them in the Aninha trail and in the Flamingo point.

He came back saying, “Dad, you will never these back; they are great glasses!†Now if I can just hide the Katmai from him until he goes to college in September, I will be fine.

 

For those that don’t understand the obsession that possesses me, I am here to tell you that there is nothing better than to look through quality glasses. I am just in a rush to finish typing this to go and sit in my patio and look for the red-tailed hawk that has been visiting us here lately.

 

Cheers,

Watchmaker

[SNAP SHOT 194]

HAVE the nikon monarch's myself this last 4 years, and you simply won't buy a better pair of bin's for so little money, excellent at both dusk and dawn,

optically i would put them up with the leica's only differance is the saving on the pocket. i know of a fella who left his on the roof of his jeep while stalking

only to be lost. was heard all down the valley at 6am in the morning. plus he didn't have the heart to tell his wife how much they really cost..................................

[byron 1,093]

Another way to see if bins are good is this.

Spy something 1000yds away then take your eyes off the bins and quickly look at something 15 to 20yds in front of you, if your eyse seem fine, their good. If they go all funny for a while, their crap.

Same as if you spy a long way off with the bins, then bring them back to 15yds again and see how well focused they stay, if its fairly good, then buy them

 

Frank.

another tip if binos tune in at ten feet [buy em] but dont do as i did 30 years ago. bought a pair of swift osprey. still got em [about 100 odd quid] seemed to get a bit sticky so i used the bad old wd 40 [degreaser] sure did sort em, cost me the same again to get put right its also suprising how many people dont know how to tune em in! using a pair of minox 8x42 now, suppose to be a offshoot of leica. dont no if this is true though [anyone tried em] i find them ok. about 200 odd quid

[watchmaker 0]

HOW TO GLASS

 

 

Well, what now, you just put he binoculars to your eyes and look through them, right?

 

Just in case we have new binocular users here, I am going to explain the mechanics of glassing the right way. Not long ago a new hunter in the family was showing me his new binoculars that I noticed were adjusted in the interpupilary distance with a far greater length that I knew his eyes to be set.

 

When I questioned him if he was not seeing two uncompleted circles when looking through the glasses, he admitted it and was surprised when I told him that the binoculars are supposed to deliver only one circle. I guess he has seen too many movies where the view trough binoculars are shown that way.

 

So our first business with the binoc is to adjust the interpupilary distance by bending the barrels at the center hinge until our eyes see only one circle; that will ensure that the optical center of the glasses is in line with the center of our pupils.

Second is to adjust the diopter wheel that is usually in the right barrel; as not everybody has 20/20 vision, this wheel will adjust the focus for your right eye. To accomplish the adjustment cover the right objective with your hand or objective cap, look through the glasses and adjust the center wheel until the view is sharp and clear, now cover the left objective and adjust the diopter wheel until the view is sharp.

 

I used for years to do this in the reverse sequence, adjusting the diopter first and then the center wheel, you get the same results.

Look at the markings at the edge of the wheel to remember the settings in case somebody changes them, (I just put a small drop of white out correction fluid to mark the setting).

 

The eye relief is fixed and in modern binoculars quite generous, but the eye cups collapse to use the binoculars with your eye glasses, some models can be adjusted to stop midway or at increments so you can get your oculars lenses as far or as close as you want to your eye glasses.

 

Now you are ready to glass, if yours glasses are 10x they are marginal in how steady you can hold them, people varies but 10x is the magnification that can do with some serious help in holding the glasses.

 

Sit down and brace your elbows against your knees or sunk them into your stomach looking for the best stable position, grasp you binos with both hands but leave your index fingers free and anchor them against your temples, or alternatively grasp the edge of your cap’s bill to add another anchor point. What you are looking for is to minimize or cancel any tremors, as a jumping up and down picture magnified 10x will not let you appreciate the detail that you bought the glasses for.

With the 8x you have a little more freedom from those tremors, I have a very steady hand (I am a watchmaker) and can hold 8x glasses with one hand for relatively quick looks, but it is not recommended, after all glasses are not for quick looks.

 

Don’t scan with glasses, your vision should be concentrated in the center of your view, and the glasses when moving, should be moving in very small increments when you are sure that the picture that you are seeing is completely understood by your brain.

The part of the eye that does the stationary looking and captures detail is very small; it is called the macula and covers only two degrees of your vision. When looking through 8x glasses this angle decrease to ¼ of a degree, so if you want to capture the detail that you pay so much money for, keep your glasses steady and look through the center of them.

 

The crouch and the belly down position are also glassing positions that should be not overlooked, take a tip from African hunters and steady your glasses in the standing position with the aid of a mono pod or shooting sticks or even a walking stick.

In carrying your glasses you can do as the African white hunters do and use a long strap to place them out of the way in the left side of your body at waist level and under your arm, or hang them from your neck but with a very short strap, so they ride high on your chest and will not swing and strike another object when you bend down.

 

There are in the market some harnesses that will keep your binoculars close to your body when you move around, but they usually interfere with other equipment, at least in my case as I wear a back pack most of the time but for those that carry only the glasses those harnesses work well.

 

All the best

Watchmaker

[highlander 0]

I looked at a set of them bino's watchmaker just to have them for in the truck.

I have a set of Swarosvki 8.5 x 42 EL they are the dogs danglies had them since they first came out. Optics these days are cheaper and better quality but I think you get what you pay for.

I got this new job and was given a set of Opticron 8 x 32 that are complete sh*te but then might just be me after looking through Swarosvki optics for so long.

 

Regards highlander.

[watchmaker 0]

THE BUSHNELL CUSTOM COMPACT

6X BY 25MM BINOCULARS

 

Hi guys,

This is for all the old timers that bought small binoculars in the 70’s.

 

This was the most popular and highly regarded binoculars in the decade of the seventies and beyond, five guys in my hunting club had them, I bought one in the middle seventies and another for my wife a couple of years later.

 

 

Mine had the center screw hinge attachment for the strap and my wife’s was a little more modern with the strap attachments on the side of the body.

 

 

In the pictures you can see my wife’s binocular with the optional rubber covering that was sold by Bushnell, it makes the binocular appear a little bigger, but it was a great noise reducer and helped with grasping the small binocular.

It will be a surprise to many to learn that the Custom Compact is still made today by Bushnell, in a slightly changed outside appearance, with a street price of about $220USD.

However they sell the 7x26, instead of the six powers. I consider the six power a better magnification for small binoculars as the exit pupil is 4.16 mm, a much better aperture for looking under low light conditions.

 

 

http://www.opticsplanet.net/bushnell-7x26m...ars-120726.html

 

 

Hope you guys have enjoyed the trip down memory lane.

All the best

 

 

Watchmaker

[nelson 0]

You probably are not interested in the hairs on the deer derriere, but with good glasses you are able to tell if the deer is a trophy and judge how much it will score, with the murky glasses you can tell only that he has something sticking out of its head.Watchmaker

 

Will it taste better then

 

Edited to say, i never realised it was such an exact science and i am quite impressed by the detail shown in your earlier posts.