Tusker 28 Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 I have a bunch of dogs here that we use for both flushing boar from plantations, as well as tracking shot deer/boar. I have some terrier type, cross' hounds, as well as some larger breeds. Gundog breeds, and more. My aim is to keep just 1 type of dog here that will cover all of the boar hunting jobs that I need a dog for. Its good practice for all of us involved in wild game management, to have trained dogs at hand to assist in finding any beast that are shot and have ran on. especially so with the tight cover of young sitka spruce that is widely planted across my concessions. The dogs must be able to find boar in thick cover, hunt away far enough from the handler to find and flush the boar. They may bay(bark) on a line, this is especially useful to the guns, as they can anticipate the path of approaching boar more easily. They must be able to find a shot boar, and stop a wounded boar if it is still mobile. This is essential for obvious humane reasons, although this is a very rare scenario, we must be ready for if/when it happens. I would like to hear from others who use tracking dogs, for boar, or flushing dogs, what are your requirements, what are the breeds or types of dog you use. I would hope that over the years, I can offer boar hunting to anyone who would like a go, and they would be more that welcome to bring their dogs along to try, or train on boar scent. Maybe I will find a few of you that have similar needs as me, and we can team up to keep a good line of trackers that suit our needs. All the best Tusker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,622 Posted October 31, 2012 Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Didn't there used to be a fella on this site Ned Makim or something similar in Australia that seemed well clued up on hog doggin? It seems the Yanks, Aussies and Europeons all have different ways of dogging boar/hogs but the Aussies seem to strive for dogs that do all rather than speacialist finders and catchers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tusker 28 Posted October 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2012 Yes mate your spot on, I know of Neds dogs, and they look like they do their job very well. Hats off to him, and thousands of others who use heavy holders in Oz. I lived in Australia! If I thought that a large finder/holder was what I needed here, trust me I would keep them, but there are many factors that make this type of dog unsuitable for me, and in general in the UK. They are not totally useless, but certainly cant be used as they should be due to legislation I am a pro deer and boar manager, and have syndicate of guns that shoot boar over my areas. I keep trained dogs that flush the boar to guns in teams of two. Also I keep some that are capable of holding a boar, as in the worst case scenario, a boar may be wounded. we owe it to the animal to bring a swift humane end to any suffering This is the only way we can operate in the UK, and I hope everyone else will operate within the law. Trust me, there is plenty of good hunting and dog work to be had. All the best Tusker 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 2,705 Posted November 13, 2012 Report Share Posted November 13, 2012 I've used a Deutsch Drahthaar for most tasks. He's approaching ten years now. But, he's always been a reliable Blood tracker, and retriever of shot game. Also points, a works a field well. He's been on a few black bears. But, he's never seen a boar. Which is a shame. I'm sure he would have liked them. ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tusker 28 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Great to hear that Micky, as Ive seen a few decent wirehairs, tough dogs with a decent nose for sure. And yeah, from what Ive seen, they LOVE boar!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hkinsont 0 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 The ideal dog I reckon would be a huntaway I went hunting boar in NZ with a mate and we had 6 huntaway's with us a top notch all rounder. Or perhaps a GWHP? I use a teckel for my following up but don't think she would be much use on a wounded boar! Good luck in your search. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waidmann 105 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 Teckel,jagdterrier,wachtelhund,all the hpr ( dd/ gwp ,Weimaraner, are probably the hardest I have seen). a well trained specialist such as the Bavarian mountain hound or Hanoverian schweisshund ( the hanoveran being a bigger heavier dog) will certainly do the job. The best dog for the job is the best trained tbh. Waidmannsheil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 2,705 Posted December 12, 2012 Report Share Posted December 12, 2012 The ideal dog I reckon would be a huntaway I went hunting boar in NZ with a mate and we had 6 huntaway's with us a top notch all rounder. Or perhaps a GWHP? I use a teckel for my following up but don't think she would be much use on a wounded boar! Good luck in your search. I've long thought about a Teckel. I guess with the boar, he might trip him for you.lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tusker 28 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 The ideal dog I reckon would be a huntaway I went hunting boar in NZ with a mate and we had 6 huntaway's with us a top notch all rounder. Or perhaps a GWHP? I use a teckel for my following up but don't think she would be much use on a wounded boar! Good luck in your search. Huntaway are a good type, Ive had guys out here with teckels, and to be fair they had a good 2 days with us. We shot 2 and the little dogs got to bail up a feisty young boar, they did the job fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tusker 28 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Teckel,jagdterrier,wachtelhund,all the hpr ( dd/ gwp ,Weimaraner, are probably the hardest I have seen). a well trained specialist such as the Bavarian mountain hound or Hanoverian schweisshund ( the hanoveran being a bigger heavier dog) will certainly do the job. The best dog for the job is the best trained tbh. Waidmannsheil If your not german I';d eat my hat! I like all the breeds you mention mate, Esp the hanoverian. Not had the joy of seeing many weimeraners, the odd one hunting birds but never on bigger game, where Id imagine them to be better suited. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddawn 2,173 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 hardly a tracking dog by trade, but the few times i been asked to find a fox that has been shot an fooked off iv used me lakie, or a collie, they both done the job, iv since bred em together so hopefully the pups will be able to same Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tusker 28 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 Ok, after much work in the forest, Im another year closer with my dogs. Im putting together some thoughts. Large type Stag x Catahoula Welsh Hound x GWP Bull x Deerhound x GWP Wheaten x GWP Bull x GWP x Grey Small type Terrier x Beagle Welsh hound x Spaniel harrier x beagle x airdale I like the way the pointer hunts, they add a certain edge to a cross, they have brains plenty and a bit of courage, so they are going to feature highly in my up coming planned matings. The way its going, I may have a large, and a small, line of boar dogs, but thats several years down the road. Having the large and the small, works really well for me, due to working in comercial forest. As you will know, spruce grows tight and dense as a young tree, only a couple decades later will the under layer open out. The smaller houndy types really put the boar under pressure in the tight young plantations. the larger houndy types will work out over much more open land, scrubland, as well as forest. There are one or two stud dogs that I will need and they got to be put together just right and must be 100% working animals. I am trying to find a catahoula stud dog to cover a stag bitch next year, is there anyone in UK or maybe France/Germany/Holland that hunt with these dogs. They are great in a pig dog mix and in my opinion, would suit the type of hunting I do very well. Not easy to find here though. Thoughts and opinions welcome All the best Tusker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tusker 28 Posted December 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 hardly a tracking dog by trade, but the few times i been asked to find a fox that has been shot an fooked off iv used me lakie, or a collie, they both done the job, iv since bred em together so hopefully the pups will be able to same alright mate, good luck with the pups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,183 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 hardly a tracking dog by trade, but the few times i been asked to find a fox that has been shot an fooked off iv used me lakie, or a collie, they both done the job, iv since bred em together so hopefully the pups will be able to same alright mate, good luck with the pups. Interesting mix ,be a bit of a height variance in litter would of thought. There's a old pet collie x jr terrier round our way,about knee height,black n white has the terrier head,solid looking dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigmur 0 Posted December 22, 2012 Report Share Posted December 22, 2012 I've spent allot of time trying to find the perfect dog for uk stalking and shooting seen and so far the wirehair visla is for me perfect all rounder perhaps this could feature in your plans if you like the pointers have a look at these Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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