Best way to mince your own meat and bones?

[patterdalejoel 669]

i dont get why everyone minces there carcasses, cut the chicken into manageable peices bones etc, it is more stimulating and stops boredom with all the chewing imo, and it will do their teeth the world of good. do the same with rabbits, its no good for the dogs to just be inhaling mince all the time in my opinion, its more natural and fun to chew and crunch.

Theres a couple of reasons why i personally want to. The first being freezer space. Dont have room for another freezer and seeing as i have to share mine i cant really keep filling it up with rabbits and carcasses, can condense them down to a fraction of the size when minced. The second being that whenever i give my dog anything more than a mouthful he'll find somewhere to stash it and wont eat it. Ill find out about it a couple of days later when a random place in my house or garden starts kickin right up.

 

He eats whole chicken wings not a problem but not rabbit or carcasses

 

mine did that, but i feed her in her crate so she has to eat it then or not eat. if she doesnt eat it then she goes hungry, and she soon learnt. if you cut it into joints or lumps you can freeze it on a baking tray with greaseproof paper in the freezer then put in bags once frozen, this stops it freezing in a lump and also will help on the storage situation. i guess im lucky i have a whole chest freezer to myself for ferret dog food etc. i know you think mincing is the best most convenient way, but i genuinely think it isnt the best option for the dog, and im sure skycat would say the same, not just eating slop which is what chicken carcass mince turns into. get a decent knife and you can cut it up into small chunks in no time. just my thoughts and how i do it

 

Try finding room for 50 plus rabbits in an ordinary freezer.

Mincing means 1. you can utilise the maximum freezer space.2.You can easily add different meats together ,ie lean rabbit& fatty chicken carcasses, and blend in blitzed raw veg ,rice , porridge,pasta easier.3. You can still give bones when required, but your dogs are not constantly trying to pass hard chalky pellets of bone.

cutting into chunks and freezing still utilises space very well, and imo i think id rather do what is better and more stimulating for the dog ie chunks, and just have to cut up more chunks more often. i dont see the need to mix up the meat together, just feed rabbit one night and chicken the other it will balance itself out. i will take the comment about veg etc, but my dog will eat pasta porridge etc when mixed with her chunks. i dont get your third point, the dogs are eating the same amount of bone wether it is minced or eaten in chunks? it is digested the same, well in fact i read it is better for the dogs digestive system to digested chewed carcasses.

If you give rabbit & chicken carcasses whole regularly you will soon have problems with dogs having constipation.

This does not happen with the same stuff when its minced. bags of rabbits,and chicken portions take up 4 or 5 times the space of the same meat minced. I know because I feed both.

I give my dogs a variety whole carcasses of both rabbit ,hare , chicken, lamb bones etc , but I also feed minced versions of the same.

 

Now tell me 1. Your dogs dont get constipated.2.Your cut up portions take up no more room than the same amount would minced.

 

no my dog doesnt get constipated, you can come watch her shite if you want. she gets pasta etc as well as the portions. im not saying it takes up the same amount as mince, but what im saying is that it is better for the dog imo than mince, and id rather have less meat stored than mince it all.

[skycat 6,172]

Dog getting constipated is nothing to do with minced or whole carcases: more to do with the amount of bone being fed, whether minced or not. Bone should only form a small percentage of the entire diet. If mine get a whole chicken carcase, by which I mean what the butcher throws out, so already minus most of the meat, they would get equal amounts of meat or tripe and meat mixed, plus a small amount of minced veg and either a couple of slices of brown bread, a handful or raw oats, or cooked pasta. That way you give enough fibre to stop the bones from clogging up the dog's guts and coming out like concrete marbles.

[crorider 174]

Whole chicken carcass.........................

Ho much will one of them set me back?

[crorider 174]

Dog getting constipated is nothing to do with minced or whole carcases: more to do with the amount of bone being fed, whether minced or not. Bone should only form a small percentage of the entire diet. If mine get a whole chicken carcase, by which I mean what the butcher throws out, so already minus most of the meat, they would get equal amounts of meat or tripe and meat mixed, plus a small amount of minced veg and either a couple of slices of brown bread, a handful or raw oats, or cooked pasta. That way you give enough fibre to stop the bones from clogging up the dog's guts and coming out like concrete marbles.

So would you say that the only difference between feeding minced meat and bone compared to unminced, is the fact the dog would get more mental stimulation?

Surely mincing could help with the difestion of bones? As my dog whos only 17tts sometimes almost swallows chicken wings whole, might bite 3 or 4 times before tilting his head back and literally inhaling it!

[skycat 6,172]

Soft bones, like the wings of chickens produced for human consumption, and killed when only 2 months of age, will dissolve in the stomach whether minced or whole. I also have a 17" dog that literally swallows them whole. Never throws them up and you can't see any bone in his shit.

[crorider 174]

Soft bones, like the wings of chickens produced for human consumption, and killed when only 2 months of age, will dissolve in the stomach whether minced or whole. I also have a 17" dog that literally swallows them whole. Never throws them up and you can't see any bone in his shit.

Thats good to know, he only struggles to shit if i feed him a couple of carcasses without anything else

[inan 841]

i dont get why everyone minces there carcasses, cut the chicken into manageable peices bones etc, it is more stimulating and stops boredom with all the chewing imo, and it will do their teeth the world of good. do the same with rabbits, its no good for the dogs to just be inhaling mince all the time in my opinion, its more natural and fun to chew and crunch.

Theres a couple of reasons why i personally want to. The first being freezer space. Dont have room for another freezer and seeing as i have to share mine i cant really keep filling it up with rabbits and carcasses, can condense them down to a fraction of the size when minced. The second being that whenever i give my dog anything more than a mouthful he'll find somewhere to stash it and wont eat it. Ill find out about it a couple of days later when a random place in my house or garden starts kickin right up.

 

He eats whole chicken wings not a problem but not rabbit or carcasses

 

mine did that, but i feed her in her crate so she has to eat it then or not eat. if she doesnt eat it then she goes hungry, and she soon learnt. if you cut it into joints or lumps you can freeze it on a baking tray with greaseproof paper in the freezer then put in bags once frozen, this stops it freezing in a lump and also will help on the storage situation. i guess im lucky i have a whole chest freezer to myself for ferret dog food etc. i know you think mincing is the best most convenient way, but i genuinely think it isnt the best option for the dog, and im sure skycat would say the same, not just eating slop which is what chicken carcass mince turns into. get a decent knife and you can cut it up into small chunks in no time. just my thoughts and how i do it

 

Try finding room for 50 plus rabbits in an ordinary freezer.

Mincing means 1. you can utilise the maximum freezer space.2.You can easily add different meats together ,ie lean rabbit& fatty chicken carcasses, and blend in blitzed raw veg ,rice , porridge,pasta easier.3. You can still give bones when required, but your dogs are not constantly trying to pass hard chalky pellets of bone.

cutting into chunks and freezing still utilises space very well, and imo i think id rather do what is better and more stimulating for the dog ie chunks, and just have to cut up more chunks more often. i dont see the need to mix up the meat together, just feed rabbit one night and chicken the other it will balance itself out. i will take the comment about veg etc, but my dog will eat pasta porridge etc when mixed with her chunks. i dont get your third point, the dogs are eating the same amount of bone wether it is minced or eaten in chunks? it is digested the same, well in fact i read it is better for the dogs digestive system to digested chewed carcasses.

If you give rabbit & chicken carcasses whole regularly you will soon have problems with dogs having constipation.

This does not happen with the same stuff when its minced. bags of rabbits,and chicken portions take up 4 or 5 times the space of the same meat minced. I know because I feed both.

I give my dogs a variety whole carcasses of both rabbit ,hare , chicken, lamb bones etc , but I also feed minced versions of the same.

 

Now tell me 1. Your dogs dont get constipated.2.Your cut up portions take up no more room than the same amount would minced.

 

no my dog doesnt get constipated, you can come watch her shite if you want. she gets pasta etc as well as the portions. im not saying it takes up the same amount as mince, but what im saying is that it is better for the dog imo than mince, and id rather have less meat stored than mince it all.

Your feeding one dog, I'm feeding four and have to find freezer space for their meat, and our weekly rabbit shoots

I don't want to spend any more time on this

 

.You do what suits you and I'll do the same.

[gnipper 5,944]

Dog getting constipated is nothing to do with minced or whole carcases: more to do with the amount of bone being fed, whether minced or not. Bone should only form a small percentage of the entire diet. If mine get a whole chicken carcase, by which I mean what the butcher throws out, so already minus most of the meat, they would get equal amounts of meat or tripe and meat mixed, plus a small amount of minced veg and either a couple of slices of brown bread, a handful or raw oats, or cooked pasta. That way you give enough fibre to stop the bones from clogging up the dog's guts and coming out like concrete marbles.

So would you say that the only difference between feeding minced meat and bone compared to unminced, is the fact the dog would get more mental stimulation?

Surely mincing could help with the difestion of bones? As my dog whos only 17tts sometimes almost swallows chicken wings whole, might bite 3 or 4 times before tilting his head back and literally inhaling it!

 

Not only mental stimulation chewing bones cleans their teeth which can/does improve there general well being. Mince is not as bad on their teeth as biscuits though.

[crorider 174]

i do still feed him bones as regularly as i can, just need mince in the freezer for when i cant

[Polkey 70]

If your limited on freezer space then maybe you could spend the money on a second hand small chest freezer instead. It will probs cost you less than a decent mincer and you can fit loads of stuff in it rather than having to constantly mince stuff to fill the limited space you have at the mo.

[Millet 4,497]

Here is a old link easy rider.. ..them hand propelled mincer's are a pile of dog dodo mate you best save your pennies and try and get a big Hobart mincer..they will mince bone's and the lot but you best skin anything with fur on it as it block's the blade and worm up pretty quick.

 

http://www.thehuntin...-made-dog-food/

Edited September 22, 2012 by Millet

[crorider 174]

Here is a old link easy rider.. ..them hand propelled mincer's are a pile of dog dodo mate you best save your pennies and try and get a big Hobart mincer..they will mince bone's and the lot but you best skin anything with fur on it as it block's the blade and worm up pretty quick.

 

http://www.thehuntin...-made-dog-food/

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