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#16 milegajo

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:20 pm

Thanks Elliott. Those groups photographed are the work of the thunderbolts.

timmytree - I stand by the words I've written. I chose them very carefully. That shouldn't stop you doing as you describe should you wish, but think first of the tree eh :thumbs: (and perhaps consider the ink being rubbed in your sensitive area because I don't know what they put in them! :icon_eek: )

I think people are forgetting here that this is a flagship £199.95 model. I cannot comment on the B2 which is reputedly the best selling airgun, at over half the price, but I think the TH208 it is very much better than how people allege all SMK products to be.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:20 pm

Agreed Elliott but don't forget those people that read such thing and part with valuable money in this current climate only to be very disappointed.

I don't really agree with jumping into bed with companies for freebies and writing a biased review for the sake of benefiting for free whilst others lose money. That's why the comics stay on the shelf at my local shop.


Thats very true pal, I agree

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:28 pm

Agreed Elliott but don't forget those people that read such thing and part with valuable money in this current climate only to be very disappointed.

I don't really agree with jumping into bed with companies for freebies and writing a biased review for the sake of benefiting for free whilst others lose money. That's why the comics stay on the shelf at my local shop.


In my experience, people tend to try before they buy and garner views from as wide a range as possible.

My view is described above. Yes Air Arms/Weihrauch/Diana make superb rifles and no, I don't think you'll win any HFT comps with the TH208 hence I do not claim such.

Your opinion differs, that's fine.

I think the edge of the axe you appear to be grinding can be considered ground now, thank you.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:34 pm

Hey it's an open forum, it's only my opinion and what I know to be true from shooting the mentioned rifle, I have no axe to grind pal.

Peace out brother, it is a free open forum after all.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:46 pm

Where is the barrel weight in the Pix Mike?

I own a SMK XS19 springer and it's the rifle that got me into hunting :yes:
Still got it now and I only have one tiny gripe about it, "the trigger unit" I want to replace with a GRT2 or 3 :yes:
As far as construction goes its excellently finished and is very accurate with AAF's

Well done for giving the gun a strip, polish and lube. Those groups are pretty tight :D
But please ditch those zinc things and go back to lead :thumbs:

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:51 pm

Think i would rather Use a Catapult than a SMK :bad:, Or buy a second hand HW or Airarms :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 08:59 pm

Thanks Elliott. Those groups photographed are the work of the thunderbolts.

I think people are forgetting here that this is a flagship 199.95 model.


Very good. I've been amazed lately of how cheap rifles can be produced. I was looking at a new Hatsan scope combo in my local gun shop today, apparently the shop's best seller, for under 200.

Not something I would buy but it certainly gives you a good start. I was spoilt learning to shoot with the HW77K that I have today when I was 10 years old :)

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:00 pm

Think i would rather Use a Catapult than a SMK http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub..., Or buy a second hand HW or Airarms http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


The number of people that have said that Daz, then said "Giz a go of that HW Tony"......
Few people realise its an SMK and not the HW35

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:03 pm

Hey it's an open forum, it's only my opinion and what I know to be true from shooting the mentioned rifle, I have no axe to grind pal.

Peace out brother, it is a free open forum after all.


No attempt is being made to stifle you.

If its my integrity you wish to be questioned, all are welcome to visit and test this TH208 should they wish.

Mawders feel free to provide any and all evidence you have to disprove what I have said and I will amend accordingly.
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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:04 pm

Where is the barrel weight in the Pix Mike?

I own a SMK XS19 springer and it's the rifle that got me into hunting http://1.2.3.12/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c...
Still got it now and I only have one tiny gripe about it, "the trigger unit" I want to replace with a GRT2 or 3 http://1.2.3.12/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c...
As far as construction goes its excellently finished and is very accurate with AAF's

Well done for giving the gun a strip, polish and lube. Those groups are pretty tight http://1.2.3.13/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c...
But please ditch those zinc things and go back to lead http://1.2.3.13/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c...

Tony


I took the barrel weight off. I preferred it lighter and found it grouped better. As mentioned in the OP, I think it was loose due in part to my over exuberant cocking procedure. Karate CHOP!

Those Crosman premiers fly down the barrel!!! I got even better groups last night with those.

Edited by milegajo, 17 August 2012 - 11:04 pm.


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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:10 pm

Thanks Elliott. Those groups photographed are the work of the thunderbolts.

timmytree - I stand by the words I've written. I chose them very carefully. That shouldn't stop you doing as you describe should you wish, but think first of the tree eh http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... (and perhaps consider the ink being rubbed in your sensitive area because I don't know what they put in them! http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... )

I think people are forgetting here that this is a flagship 199.95 model. I cannot comment on the B2 which is reputedly the best selling airgun, at over half the price, but I think the TH208 it is very much better than how people allege all SMK products to be.


If you look over my reply I think you'll find that that any problems with the ink on sensitive body parts would be yours not mine.
I fail to see how doing a review like this can be of benefit to anyone except yourself and SMK.
You write a load of nonsense about an airgun that is at best mediocre, coupled with some spiel about pellets that some have already tried and know to be not as good as the better lead alternatives.
It's not seasoned airgunners that will be taken in by tripe like this, it's the newcomers who will decide to spend their money, try hard and then give up through disappointment at what they can achieve with what people like you have hoodwinked them into believing is useful gear.
Lis are lies no matter what cover or excuse you have for making them.

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 09:28 pm

The problem with the SMK is it is basically twice the price of the Hatsan 55 or 60 which is a Webley Stingray Mark 2 (which is a £200 gun). These can be picked up from £90 new. The Hatsan 60 gas ram is £199, what would you rather have? A nondescript SMK with a known problematic trigger or a gas rammed rifle with a real two stage trigger? Same price....

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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:47 pm


Thanks Elliott. Those groups photographed are the work of the thunderbolts.

timmytree - I stand by the words I've written. I chose them very carefully. That shouldn't stop you doing as you describe should you wish, but think first of the tree eh http://1.2.3.13/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c... (and perhaps consider the ink being rubbed in your sensitive area because I don't know what they put in them! http://1.2.3.11/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c... )

I think people are forgetting here that this is a flagship 199.95 model. I cannot comment on the B2 which is reputedly the best selling airgun, at over half the price, but I think the TH208 it is very much better than how people allege all SMK products to be.


If you look over my reply I think you'll find that that any problems with the ink on sensitive body parts would be yours not mine.
I fail to see how doing a review like this can be of benefit to anyone except yourself and SMK.
You write a load of nonsense about an airgun that is at best mediocre, coupled with some spiel about pellets that some have already tried and know to be not as good as the better lead alternatives.
It's not seasoned airgunners that will be taken in by tripe like this, it's the newcomers who will decide to spend their money, try hard and then give up through disappointment at what they can achieve with what people like you have hoodwinked them into believing is useful gear.
Lis are lies no matter what cover or excuse you have for making them.

I extend my invitation to you timmytree. Welcome to the forum. You may prove to be a valuable contributor. Perhaps your 11th post could be an in depth review, rather than some crude attempt to criticize the work of others. Have you tried thunderbolts. Do you contest that the group shown is acceptable? Again, I made no claim that they are the best pellets, only that they appear to work well in the TH208 as evidenced.

Lies are indeed lies. You will not, however, find any in the OP. You may have found an opinion you disagree with. Note the difference.

In future, I'd appreciate you display some respect, and decency. Launching straight into accusations and judgements is never a good tactic in any encounter in my experience.

Edited by milegajo, 17 August 2012 - 11:01 pm.


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Posted 17 August 2012 - 10:53 pm

The problem with the SMK is it is basically twice the price of the Hatsan 55 or 60 which is a Webley Stingray Mark 2 (which is a £200 gun). These can be picked up from £90 new. The Hatsan 60 gas ram is £199, what would you rather have? A nondescript SMK with a known problematic trigger or a gas rammed rifle with a real two stage trigger? Same price....


Ahh yes, the Mod 55s with the quattro trigger. Another rifle I enjoyed. Longer overall length if memory serves correctly. Resettable safety. Walnut stock. Heavier mind. Half the price though.
Sadly I didn't know enough about servicing airguns when I owned that, so to say the SMK is smoother to cock and shoot is possibly unfair.

Gas ram? I haven't tried one yet, maybe one day.

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 10:56 am



Thanks Elliott. Those groups photographed are the work of the thunderbolts.

timmytree - I stand by the words I've written. I chose them very carefully. That shouldn't stop you doing as you describe should you wish, but think first of the tree eh http://1.2.3.13/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c... (and perhaps consider the ink being rubbed in your sensitive area because I don't know what they put in them! http://1.2.3.11/bmi/www.thehuntinglife.c... )

I think people are forgetting here that this is a flagship 199.95 model. I cannot comment on the B2 which is reputedly the best selling airgun, at over half the price, but I think the TH208 it is very much better than how people allege all SMK products to be.


If you look over my reply I think you'll find that that any problems with the ink on sensitive body parts would be yours not mine.
I fail to see how doing a review like this can be of benefit to anyone except yourself and SMK.
You write a load of nonsense about an airgun that is at best mediocre, coupled with some spiel about pellets that some have already tried and know to be not as good as the better lead alternatives.
It's not seasoned airgunners that will be taken in by tripe like this, it's the newcomers who will decide to spend their money, try hard and then give up through disappointment at what they can achieve with what people like you have hoodwinked them into believing is useful gear.
Lis are lies no matter what cover or excuse you have for making them.

I extend my invitation to you timmytree. Welcome to the forum. You may prove to be a valuable contributor. Perhaps your 11th post could be an in depth review, rather than some crude attempt to criticize the work of others. Have you tried thunderbolts. Do you contest that the group shown is acceptable? Again, I made no claim that they are the best pellets, only that they appear to work well in the TH208 as evidenced.

Lies are indeed lies. You will not, however, find any in the OP. You may have found an opinion you disagree with. Note the difference.

In future, I'd appreciate you display some respect, and decency. Launching straight into accusations and judgements is never a good tactic in any encounter in my experience.

Lack of posts doesn't come into it, you ask if I've tried Thunderbolts, yes I have, and in a variety of weapons including a number of SMK offerings. They all struggled to produce an acceptable group and weren't much better even with decent lead pellets.
I only use springers, I hunt with them and pride myself on being a good shot, after trying some of the SMK range I would never hunt with them in standard form because in my opinion they are not accurate enough at the distances I shoot.
Maybe I was a bit harsh and belligerent in the way I put my point across but the fact remains that if you are "given" a combo in return for a "good" review then no one except newcomers to the sport will give that review any credence whatsoever.


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