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hi all, this is my first post and i am kinda new too hunting and have gone round farm houses and still waiting for reply's.. was just wondering if there was anyone in the west midlands that could take me out on a couple of occasions and i would really appreciate it i can travel too... thanks a lot for taking the time to read.. i have a smk 22. calibre with nikko stirling sights..

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hi all, this is my first post and i am kinda new too hunting and have gone round farm houses and still waiting for reply's.. was just wondering if there was anyone in the west midlands that could take me out on a couple of occasions and i would really appreciate it i can travel too... thanks a lot for taking the time to read.. i have a smk 22. calibre with nikko stirling sights..

 

GREAT first post

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This might sound silly but can someone please tell me can you shoot deer with a shotgun on a shotgun License or do you need a firearms license and a rifle. Also what legal implications/restrictions are in place to go out and hunt deer. I want to do everything legally and I am a keen hunter of smaller game and love fishing but want to hunt deer now but don't know where to start. Please help someone. Thankyou. Any help or advice is appreciated.

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heres the basc guidelines http://www.basc.org....er-stalking.cfm

 

deer can be shot with a shotgun with restrictions

 

Currently, under Section 7 of the 1991 Deer Act, the 'farmer's defence' allows deer to be shot during their close season with a shotgun in order to prevent crop damage.

 

Certain conditions apply, for example, the shotgun must not be smaller than a 12-bore and specific larger shot sizes must be used.

 

 

a bit more info

 

In England and Wales there are still those who, 35 years after the passing of the original 1968 Deer Act, regard a 12 bore shotgun as suitable for shooting deer. In certain, limited circumstances (where serious damage is being caused) it is of course legal to use a shotgun. S.7 of the Deer Act 1991 provides that it must not be less than a 12 bore. It may only be used by the occupier of the land and other specific categories of person when damage is being done by deer of the same species that are being shot. For example, it would not be legal to shoot roe with a shotgun if the serious damage was being inflicted by muntjac.

As to ammunition for the shotgun, this must either be rifled slug of not less than 22.68 grammes (350 grains) or AAA shot.

Within such organisations as the British Deer Society (“B.D.S.”) one rarely hears of any culling being done with shotguns and it appears to be accepted that the use of shotguns, if not always without the law, is generally beyond the pale.

If this attitude is subject to an exception it is perhaps in the case of muntjac. Now, as a matter of law, the permitted firearms for muntjac are the same as for any other deer. In addition, muntjac enjoy the “best practice” benefit of the B.D.S. recommendation that only muntjac does that are either heavily pregnant or yearlings be culled, this being to avoid orphaning dependant fawns. Be this as it may, the muntjac suffers from an extraordinarily bad press. Muntjac are of course recent immigrants that have not infrequently escaped from asylums of one sort or another and, as such, are inevitably likely to attract prejudices.

Whilst the writer’s own experiences with muntjac have led him to enthuse about their varied merits including but not limited to their fascinating physical appearance, behaviour, vocal range, breeding patterns, interest to the stalker and for gourmet food at the table, he realises he is in a minority.

Putting it bluntly, many landowners game keepers and deer shooters regard muntjac as pests and habitually organise their control by means of shotgun drives. These shotgun drives may be quite legal if the pre-requisites of the law are scrupulously observed and all the S.7 requirements are met. However, observance of the law is not the end of the matter, as it is also important for stalkers to decide whether such a modus operandi is ethically acceptable.

The fathers of modern deer management reiterate today how the 1968 Deer Act outlawed cruel shotgun drives of deer. One suspects that the deer shot or shot at in those drives were mainly roe. Whether they were roe or fallow deer they too were of course immigrants, albeit from earlier times than the muntjac. If they were deemed worthy of the law’s protection, how can any case be made for denying it to muntjac other than one based on expediency?

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