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I was watching Gordon Ramsey on youtube last night eating rook pie and it got me thinking "why is it that we don't eat these any more?" You'd think with the recession and everything people might take the chance of food that's plentiful! but then again most people won't eat things you have to clean and prepare yourself anyway so it's a daft question I spose.lol

 

Anyway, Nice bag there well done.

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I notice no one asked about the pigeons being left with young, there more concerned about the hare, if it was rabbits, no one would mention anything either..Its always the hares that get people up in arms :huh:

 

As for shooting between fields, it complies, no problem, looks a good day out anyway Les..

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Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin

is the clover a crop? if not surely you dont comply with the general licence!!

 

:icon_eek: it just shows the lack of knowledge by some you know the details of the GL which is good but to think clover is not a crop is laughable it has just as much importance to a dairy farmer as wheat to a arable farmer in terms of feed :laugh:

 

ATB Cookie

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(cookie) iv worked on dairy farms for the last 20 years plus

and clover dus not class as a crop. or for that fact

do any benifits for cows in anyway atall

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Guest cookiemonsterandmerlin

(cookie) iv worked on dairy farms for the last 20 years plus

and clover dus not class as a crop. or for that fact

do any benifits for cows in anyway atall

 

Well milking cows myself from age 12 till my early 30s says slighty diffrent here I have pasted and copied a section from research study :thumbs:

 

 

Benefits of White Clover

  • Nitrogen fixation – the conversion of nitrogen from the air into a farm that the plant can utilize. It is estimated that the amount of utilizable nitrogen produced is equivalent to 150-200 KG N per hectare.
  • Intake – ruminant livestock may consume 20-30 percent more white clover than grass.
  • Feed Value – a higher digestibility, protein content and mineral content than grass only swards as identified in Table 1.

Or red clover

 

 

The role of red clover

 

Red Clover is a short-lived perennial that typically persists for two to four years and so is compatible with Italian and hybrid ryegrasses.

Unlike white clover it has an upright growth habit and a strong deep taproot. The upright stems arise from the crown of the plant. Therefore, unlike white clover, it is unable to spread through the sward and colonise vacant sites. This restricts red clover to systems where it can be cut or rotationally grazed.

As the crown of the plant is above ground, damage must be avoided to ensure plant survival and:

  • cutting height should be 7-8 cm
  • optimum grazing heights of aftermaths is 4-6 cm.

Benefits of Red Clover

  • Nitrogen fixation – red clover can fix up to 200 KG N per hectare.
  • High yields – red clover swards are capable of producing up to 15 tonnes of dry matter per hectare.
  • Feed value – protein content is particularly high in red clover.
  • Red clover can improve soil structure due to its deep rooting taproot.
  • Improved animal performance. (Table 2).

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Cows feeding in a clover ley :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

I know my stuff when it comes to farming working on 2000 acres mixed farm of beef dairy and arable :thumbs:

 

ATB Cookie

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found a big chunk of clover while i was out this morning :laugh:

LOL Did you find any four leaved ones.

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found a big chunk of clover while i was out this morning :laugh:

LOL Did you find any four leaved ones.

no but i did find a 21 leaf one :laugh:

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found a big chunk of clover while i was out this morning :laugh:

 

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Clover is definitely a bona fide crop - one of my farmers grows it for sileage or haylage and feeds his lambs with it as its growing through the spring. It is cultivated, sown and grown and is 100% crop in every sense. He'd be p*ssed off if I didn't shoot over it tbh.

Good shooting Les, as ever!

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(cookie) iv worked on dairy farms for the last 20 years plus

and clover dus not class as a crop. or for that fact

do any benifits for cows in anyway atall

wye do they cut it roll it bag it as silidge if its not a crop get a crip of your self and you work on a farm were are you in the egg sheds

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found a big chunk of clover while i was out this morning :laugh:

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