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#31 PatterJack

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 05:40 pm

In a nutshell...................NO!!!. Do you honestly think any keeper worth his salt will let foxes walk about the place when they have a job to do? They might not broadcast it if the owner wants to leave foxes for the hunt but ffs dont kid yourself that it doesn't happen........ http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
Maybe you could get me the numbers of these shoots that release birds for foxes and BOP's to eat i'd love to get that order for the Game farm......."Eh can i have 10000 poults for this years shooting and could you throw in an extra thousand for the vermin"........... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
The only thing i must admit i have never heard of these shoots in Norfolk that dont release birds but are shooting large amounts of pheasants. What estates are they on mate?... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


And do you think any keeper that values his job would flatten the foxes to save his pheasants when his boss doesnt care if they get eaten or not? If the boss wants to shoot pheasants but also wants foxes on the ground for the hunt, and he is willing to pay for the losses, why would any keeper risk killing them all. Fair enough i admit those same keepers probably do shift or kill the odd litter on cubs here and there but of the two estates i know of, the keepers dont go out of their way to kill the foxes (i.e. no lamping, no snaring)

As for norfolk shoots, look in any of the old books about wild partridge shooting and im sure more than a fair share of them will be in norfolk. Two of the biggest names would be Holkham and Sandringham, both of which are still shooting alot of wild game. And believe it or not, the keepers spend their time killing the vermin. NOT artificially rearing chicken like pheasants and partridges to release. and NOT leaving everything to the natural balance like Paulus says.


i give up http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


I think i'll do the same. The point you made about natural balances had no relevance to wild gamebirds in britain. You have proved that you have little knowledge or experience of producing wild gamebirds too so i think its best if i carry on doing what i do and when your producing enough wild birds to shoot big driven days with your method of 'leave everything' then ill put my hands up and say you were wrong and i was right.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 07:21 pm



I agree with most of what has been said. I think ducks would be your best bet for getting some shooting. dont go mad with the food. one bucket of corn will do EVERY night. its important to feed every night to keep them coming back. also leave at least 10 days more if you can between nights shooting to let them come back in. If you want a decent number of wild pheasant/partridge you must kill EVERYTHING that poses a threat to them. And even if you get rid of every predator on the place a bit of rain will wipe out young broods so you might struggle.

i have access to a fair amount of land and pritty much the sole shooting rights, there is a very large pupulation of wild pheasants,deer,pigeon,duck,rabbit,hare. the odd partridge as the ground is not ideal for them, when everything is wild rather than farmed (stocked pheasents ect) there is no need for the, kill everything mentality associated with rearing and release pens, its all about balance and understanding, i like to see the odd fox,stoat.weasal, even rats,crows and squirrels have a place in the countryside http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
i keep saying im not running a shoot http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

your talking out your arse mate. I give up its been a long day rearing ;) :thumbs:

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:47 pm




I agree with most of what has been said. I think ducks would be your best bet for getting some shooting. dont go mad with the food. one bucket of corn will do EVERY night. its important to feed every night to keep them coming back. also leave at least 10 days more if you can between nights shooting to let them come back in. If you want a decent number of wild pheasant/partridge you must kill EVERYTHING that poses a threat to them. And even if you get rid of every predator on the place a bit of rain will wipe out young broods so you might struggle.

i have access to a fair amount of land and pritty much the sole shooting rights, there is a very large pupulation of wild pheasants,deer,pigeon,duck,rabbit,hare. the odd partridge as the ground is not ideal for them, when everything is wild rather than farmed (stocked pheasents ect) there is no need for the, kill everything mentality associated with rearing and release pens, its all about balance and understanding, i like to see the odd fox,stoat.weasal, even rats,crows and squirrels have a place in the countryside http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
i keep saying im not running a shoot http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

your talking out your arse mate. I give up its been a long day rearing http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



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