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you laughing because I broke my back or laughing as i have a great life

 

 

any why has the whole world gotta revolve aroon you :icon_eek:

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you laughing because I broke my back or laughing as i have a great life

 

 

any why has the whole world gotta revolve aroon you :icon_eek:

 

The world does not nor does this forum but you posted a laughing face under my comment of I broke my back just wondered what part you found funny as it goes when I broke my back I found it funny later on when i watched the video but as you have not what you find funny

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buzzards are lazy b*sttards as you will know from your falconry expierences. they will take an easy meal anyday and release pens afford these easy meals the same as our road networks

Dont worry you dont sound arsey just f*****g silly. I can assure you that owls are not on the keepers "bird to worry about list"...as i've said they can do damage and alot of damage in one night but t

Thing is if you have small fen type birds such as I have an adult cock struggles to get to 2lb buzzard has no problem taking them but if you had a pure black neck going around 4lb then matey might jus

I can catagoricaly say that Buzzards will 1 Million % take full grown Pheasants. I live on a sporting estate with a pen litteraly about 250 yds from the back of my aviaries, the wife takes a short cut round the track past the pen and also along the edge of the woods where the feeders are stood to take the kids to school, many times me and also the wife has seen a Buzzard fly out from the maze cover or near to the feeders where a carcass of a Pheasant lays.

 

Ok we can all say the Pheasant was poorly or dead already but this is not the case, there's always a scattering of feathers where the Pheasant was first taken near the feeder, there may also be a couple more where the struggle persisted before it finally met its maker.

 

also the second year we moved here we had some black Leghorn chickens running free range, one evening I went to put them up as usualy but was one short! I finally found it behind the back hedge which was a classic Hawk kill, plent of feathers plucked in different area's before I finally found the carcass, the best bit is the carcass was left and a Buzzard returned for it later...

 

I have kept birds of prey for many years from a flying point of view and also from a breeding point of view, If anyone had asked me this a few years ago about wild Buzzards taking Pheasants I would have laughed my arse off but I have now educated myself after seeing the aftermath first hand....

I can catagoricaly say that Buzzards will 1 Million % take full grown Pheasants. I live on a sporting estate with a pen litteraly about 250 yds from the back of my aviaries, the wife takes a short cut round the track past the pen and also along the edge of the woods where the feeders are stood to take the kids to school, many times me and also the wife has seen a Buzzard fly out from the maze cover or near to the feeders where a carcass of a Pheasant lays.

 

Ok we can all say the Pheasant was poorly or dead already but this is not the case, there's always a scattering of feathers where the Pheasant was first taken near the feeder, there may also be a couple more where the struggle persisted before it finally met its maker.

 

also the second year we moved here we had some black Leghorn chickens running free range, one evening I went to put them up as usualy but was one short! I finally found it behind the back hedge which was a classic Hawk kill, plent of feathers plucked in different area's before I finally found the carcass, the best bit is the carcass was left and a Buzzard returned for it later...

 

I have kept birds of prey for many years from a flying point of view and also from a breeding point of view, If anyone had asked me this a few years ago about wild Buzzards taking Pheasants I would have laughed my arse off but I have now educated myself after seeing the aftermath first hand....

 

Ok I will take this on board that buzzards do take adult pheasants although I have not heard of this on many occasions maybe as there are more of them now or there other food rabbit is not quite so readily available due to larger numbers they have learnt to take pheasants a bit more often then I have given them credit for.

 

 

Thing is if you have small fen type birds such as I have an adult cock struggles to get to 2lb buzzard has no problem taking them but if you had a pure black neck going around 4lb then matey might just struggle.

I guess we should all just bear in mind that the minute a rule is written nature has an uncanny way of breaking it :thumbs:

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dont be sorry about my back I have a great life if you forget about the pain lol

 

if you will read back chief ye will see i posted under this post, not the 1 ye said ye broke ye back.... if i was laffin at what ye said id a quoted it, is that okay by you ???????

 

you might think ye can talk to folk like they fooking school kids or criminals sitting in an interview room, but dont try it way me, i dont have to exlplain meself to you.... is that okay???

 

away you back oot way yer gammy back an ferocious redtail an stop looking for fights on the web ffs....

 

 

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Look mate i've argued with a few folk on here about the magestic f*****g Buzzard.......now maybe yourself and some others who i have discussed this matter with have a greater knowledge on BOPs in captivaty but please dont come on banging on about Owls being a bigger pest than a Buzzard...that is laughable!! The Buzzard is the biggest pain in the arse to keepers cause there hands are tied on dealing with them....whether you've seen it with your own eyes or not there a f*****g pest.

I'm not too clued up on this Redtail either, must be some birds that they would take on a Roe........... :icon_eek: Hopefully i'll get to see that one day. I did 2 seasons ago watch a Sea Eagle swoop down on a Roe after it was flushed from a wood before a drive started.....not sure but i thought i heard the Eagle say "Na, f**k thats too big!!!".. :whistling:

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Look mate i've argued with a few folk on here about the magestic f*****g Buzzard.......now maybe yourself and some others who i have discussed this matter with have a greater knowledge on BOPs in captivaty but please dont come on banging on about Owls being a bigger pest than a Buzzard...that is laughable!! The Buzzard is the biggest pain in the arse to keepers cause there hands are tied on dealing with them....whether you've seen it with your own eyes or not there a f*****g pest.

I'm not too clued up on this Redtail either, must be some birds that they would take on a Roe........... :icon_eek: Hopefully i'll get to see that one day. I did 2 seasons ago watch a Sea Eagle swoop down on a Roe after it was flushed from a wood before a drive started.....not sure but i thought i heard the Eagle say "Na, f**k thats too big!!!".. :whistling:

Look mate i've argued with a few folk on here about the magestic f*****g Buzzard.......now maybe yourself and some others who i have discussed this matter with have a greater knowledge on BOPs in captivaty but please dont come on banging on about Owls being a bigger pest than a Buzzard...that is laughable!! The Buzzard is the biggest pain in the arse to keepers cause there hands are tied on dealing with them....whether you've seen it with your own eyes or not there a f*****g pest.

I'm not too clued up on this Redtail either, must be some birds that they would take on a Roe........... :icon_eek: Hopefully i'll get to see that one day. I did 2 seasons ago watch a Sea Eagle swoop down on a Roe after it was flushed from a wood before a drive started.....not sure but i thought i heard the Eagle say "Na, f**k thats too big!!!".. :whistling:

 

I not say owls are the biggest pest to a keeper I said they a pest and when I was keeping the biggest pest for me was the local sparrow hawk for the partridges followed by the tawny owl then the buzzard every where is different as all the land scapes are different and have different levels of pest as you can tell I like birds of pray and in areas where there levels are to high I think they should be moved or shot to a given level I can only speak from my own experience the same as you from yours on the estate with the tawny owl it ripped in to poults in a given area and was the biggest pest for us in that area over all other pests I guess I am just trying to point out other things can be a pest that people do not always think about and is easier to blame the so callled buzzard or fox how many people have lost a chick and blamed the fox when it was a cat or a dog that escaped. just a quick look on you tube

redtail is a bit smaller but wing span is nearly 6ft and hunts at just over 3lb
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muntjac,fox, roe the sky must turn black and the air become filled with demonic verses when that redtail of yours leaves the fist :whistling:

muntjac,fox, roe the sky must turn black and the air become filled with demonic verses when that redtail of yours leaves the fist :whistling:

 

Take a look on you tube or go to the international falconry forum and have a look at some of the posts for redtails the Americans are the best flyer of redtails then come back with that whistling face

ive read it mate :laugh: ive also read of people shooting king kong with a spud gun on other forums :laugh:
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We used to have terrible trouble with Buzzards taking poults. They used to just sit in the trees in the pen then just drop on the poults as they left cover to feed, eat the best bits then back in the tree to get another.

We tried loads of differant things to lessen the impact, setting dead rabbits out for them, feeding the cover not the feed rides, stringing red and white tape through the trees like bunting, hanging cd's from the trees. The farm manager even gave us some scarecrows for the pens!! Within a few days the buzzards were used to it and back again. Shouting and waving would move them off but as soon as you left they returned. They were a bloody nightmare.

After three or four weeks the killings just stopped and the buzzards had disappeared.

 

We used to see a Goshawk that would take the odd poult but never from the pens. Seemed to only take ones that had managed to get out the pen and into the gamecovers. We used to put electric sheep netting round the maize to stop the badgers from rolling it flat and one morning we found the Goshawk wrapped up in the netting. It still had hold of the poult through the wire! lol Even with the Tractor battery cracking it every second or two it still hadn't let go of the bird!

 

The Goshawk didn't have much impact on the pheasants and was nice to see about the place, there's not many about round here.

The buzzards though were everywhere. When the lads were ploughing you would regularly see double figures on the plough. We counted 31 of them once. Tried getting photo's of it but they never came out properly just looked like brown smudges on the plough.

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Look mate i've argued with a few folk on here about the magestic f*****g Buzzard.......now maybe yourself and some others who i have discussed this matter with have a greater knowledge on BOPs in captivaty but please dont come on banging on about Owls being a bigger pest than a Buzzard...that is laughable!! The Buzzard is the biggest pain in the arse to keepers cause there hands are tied on dealing with them....whether you've seen it with your own eyes or not there a f*****g pest.

I'm not too clued up on this Redtail either, must be some birds that they would take on a Roe........... :icon_eek: Hopefully i'll get to see that one day. I did 2 seasons ago watch a Sea Eagle swoop down on a Roe after it was flushed from a wood before a drive started.....not sure but i thought i heard the Eagle say "Na, f**k thats too big!!!".. :whistling:

Look mate i've argued with a few folk on here about the magestic f*****g Buzzard.......now maybe yourself and some others who i have discussed this matter with have a greater knowledge on BOPs in captivaty but please dont come on banging on about Owls being a bigger pest than a Buzzard...that is laughable!! The Buzzard is the biggest pain in the arse to keepers cause there hands are tied on dealing with them....whether you've seen it with your own eyes or not there a f*****g pest.

I'm not too clued up on this Redtail either, must be some birds that they would take on a Roe........... :icon_eek: Hopefully i'll get to see that one day. I did 2 seasons ago watch a Sea Eagle swoop down on a Roe after it was flushed from a wood before a drive started.....not sure but i thought i heard the Eagle say "Na, f**k thats too big!!!".. :whistling:

 

I not say owls are the biggest pest to a keeper I said they a pest and when I was keeping the biggest pest for me was the local sparrow hawk for the partridges followed by the tawny owl then the buzzard every where is different as all the land scapes are different and have different levels of pest as you can tell I like birds of pray and in areas where there levels are to high I think they should be moved or shot to a given level I can only speak from my own experience the same as you from yours on the estate with the tawny owl it ripped in to poults in a given area and was the biggest pest for us in that area over all other pests I guess I am just trying to point out other things can be a pest that people do not always think about and is easier to blame the so callled buzzard or fox how many people have lost a chick and blamed the fox when it was a cat or a dog that escaped. just a quick look on you tube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7FFlFy8eM redtail is a bit smaller but wing span is nearly 6ft and hunts at just over 3lb

im sorry fella but theres a huge difference between a redtail and a golden eagle :laugh: pre ban ive seen 70lb bull x`s get messed up on muntjac never mind a 3lb bird :thumbs:
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