thats obvious beucase foxs are regualry within 200 y. i saw 2 last night at 110 yards. sadly i had the wrong gun.
like your 600 y experiment i have my own at 180y with the rimmy. does not mean i am going to attempt a crow out to that range with the rimmy as 150 is my limit for that. and yes i can hit the plastic magpie centre mass pritty much every time in low and medium winds with the rimmy at 150 so why not?
the very fact that you have tried a 600y experient is good as you were testing out your rifles and ur ability which is good in my view, thus knowing what you kit can do. but best not to critise me for dowing the same with my rimmy as i am entittle to do the same and as the threat states its just paper punching.
militray personel shoot out to 600 y with the standard nato round and that is very similar to the .223 and they are shooting at people so you gun is perfectly capable at that range if the taliban come knocking on your door!! but i never hinted that i you or anyone would be shooting anything at that rang. nor have i said i will shoot a crow at 180y.
anyhow i digress, i have never had a problem with cant with or without a spirt level, but i have had many cross over problems (pardon the pun) due to poor british craftsmanship http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
i will put this contact down to bad crossover http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
You are still missing the point entirely, 600 yards with a .223 at a range isn't an experiment, the rifle is well known to be perfectly capable at that distance under range circumstances, 1000 is capable, 1200 yards may be an experiment with it! My .223 1,300ft lb, your .22lr with Eley subs less than 100ft lb! We have a lot of different calibres and types of ammo for a reason! I don't have any crow examples but this may help to explain what I mean, hit a rabbit at 150-200 yards with a .22lr and the odds are you may spend some time looking for the hole it made, this bunny was hit at about 180 yards with a .223 Ballistic tip! The rest of it is spread around several counties!
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military personal shoot and hope with a SA80 at 600 yards! The standard Nato 62g ball RG 5.56 ammo, as used by our military, is in the order of 10,000lb higher pressure than a conventional .223, and is about as accurate as a pea shooter (ok.... slight exaggeration), RG ammo in 5.56 is appalling!
You suggested the crows were 180 yards, apparently you are happy to try and shoot them at 150 with a .22lr, range it 10 yards out either way or get a gust of wind and you will either miss by a country mile or injure it, like I have said, targets are not fieldwork.
Crows at 150 yards is not the domain of the .22lr in my book, too many variables, and the fact the farmers wife doesn't like noise doesn't make it the right gun. Part of hunting is to make sure you are not under gunned, so when that shot turns up that wasn't as perfect as you wanted the job still gets done. Routinely, when you go out, you shoot within the capabilities of the tool you use, not on the extreme limits of the tool. 100-150 yard crows are at the extreme limit of a .22lr in anyones book. We all challenge ourselves from time to time in the field, but you don't go out every day to test the limits of yourself and your rifle on live quarry, you do that on targets!
My opinion, I suspect you have a different opinion!
Edited by Deker, 31 January 2012 - 11:21 pm.