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hi Darcy

nice to see you in here!!

 

i shoot .177 & .22

 

PCP .177 /.22 springer an old BSA meteor i done some refurbishment on,

 

.177 springer

 

as long as you can hit the same kill zone time and time again @ different ranges,

it don't matter shit!! what cal you have,just do the calibration and the range estimation and you will be fine!!

practise practise practise!!!

 

Davy

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Each as good as the other, the only two things that a .177 has over a .22 is price of pellets and a flatter trajectory   If you can put the pellet where its needed then either cal will kill what yo

Hi mate,   It comes down to a few things really on your part mate due to the list you have written being 2 potential night time quarry and 2 day time species.   I would ask myself the following qu

Rifle wise i would buy a single shot BSA Ultra or a Air Arms S200. They are both quite cheap but very good quality and have the accuracy caperbility to out shoot anyone i know.

 

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I personally own an Air Arms S200 .22, first air rifle I bought. Took Oxfordshire Junior County Champion in the 25m Air rifle centre 5 shot grouping as a result. I love it. Although, the cadet air rifle team have their own air rifles provided for free (but only used in target shooting for competition, not hunting sadly :cray:) and we get to choose, I favoured the S410 in .177 and I've won 16 out of 17 competitions I shot in.

 

(And as a side note, I also "own" my own L98A2 (5.56mm) Assault rifle with a SUSAT Scope, which is my pride and joy).

 

Atb,

 

Bunny.

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Eh? Don't you ever shoot up into trees? Are there no tree's in Norfolk?

 

Seems to me only six months ago you were lecturing us all that the cheapo chinese guns were great :whistling: and now, a few months later you're the guru on everything else. :D

 

Mind you, some of your posts do brighten my day up...... :D

 

 

 

p.s, winters here, can i borrow a .22 from your armory until springtime as i don't think i will bag much with the .177...... :blink:

 

I do not shoot into trees, the only trees the pigeons on my permission are in are Leylandi or some sodding great fir sort of thing, impossible to see the birds in, so no, not into elevated shooting, yet, but will try it when I get the chance! If I cannot get a clear aim at the target, I leave well alone! I find that the BRC/Chairgun info works well enough for my shooting! Trouble is not everyone has a permission that is as flat as the proverbial pancake!

 

Edited to add you cannot borrow my .177, as being open farmland with zip all cover in the middle, I need the .22 to overcome the often fast winds! Round here zip all between us and the cold coasts of Northern Europe... Also I have only ever owned one Chinese gun, bought as a laugh, never went hunting with it, I think you meant Turkish... Nice guns but nothing on a superb springer! I will agree that you are better looking for a better quality weapon, but if needs must then you can do an awful lot worse than a Hatsan!

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Chairgun Pro is actually pretty good (with the appropriate applet) at working out aim points with up hill down hill shooting.

 

I've only just installed the BRC so gonna have to find my way around it.

 

I agree with JD though, nothing beats being able to look at your quarry, decide instantly without having to think about it and pressing the trigger then watching your quarry roll over.

 

I found I was better at doing this with my 30/30 crosshair than I am with a mildot. Now I think about dot's where as when I had my tv-screen 30/30 ret, I knew instinctively where the cross needed to be, placed it and bunny rolled over dead as the proverbial DODO!

 

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I know exactly what Tony's saying about some mil-dot rets, and especially those bloody ladder type things, they just make my eyes go funny and I find I'm trying to rely on the bloody dots and crap instead of trusting my own judgement. I've tried them and whilst I can just about get on with basic generic mil-dot rets I still prefer a good old 30-30 any time.

 

Edit to add..... Oh yes, caliber. It doesn't really matter. Personally I mainly use .20 but I also shoot .22 and .177. As has been said many times before it's all about putting the shot in the right place :thumbs:

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good thread this what darcy said about shooting with a bit of instinct has some truth in it! i only got back into shooting in the last 2 an a half years and previously had had a tatty springer in the 80s with open sights once i had set up the sights i never touched them again and shot mainly rats it was all instinct straight to the shoulder an pop. now with the pcps i rely on a rest pretty heavily and tend to pick a spot and camp using a range finder on landmarks to minimalise distance guessing and zero every time the rifle leaves the slip. i do drop a lot of rabbits but looking back i dropped an awful lot of rats with out all the technology. mind you 20 odd years ago i had better eyesight lol.

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