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#16 mackem

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 08:54 pm

They were made in Japan too

Not going to be as cheap,get the exact battery type and source them through alibaba or one of the chinese dedicated search/trading sites,couple of you get together your going to save yourselves cash.


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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:04 pm

Not too sure how to upload pics?

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 10:55 am

Click your reply box......bottom of the box is attach-file click on browse,select the pic then click on attach this file.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 11:07 am

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 11:12 am

How much was that kit?I am 100% certain you could get something equally as good imported yourself for half the price.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 11:15 am

thats the 10ah i paid £150 for it when they first came out, it no longer works a transistor burnt out on the PCB although it did get hammered for nearly 2 seasons.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 11:18 am

Could be a bussiness oppurtunity for someone, there are better made cells on the alibaba site i.e samsung etc for a franction of the price, some of them will ship single units too. ;)

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:44 pm

Im gutted...do you know how much them poxy 18650 cells cost to buy ... ffsake..i been using them in my Custom cree Mag and Tiablo A9 for a few years..

have a look on this site for more goodies..ive just ordered a 75mm apsheric lens..mmmm.

http://s.dealextreme...geable battery.


I bet someone on this site could easy knock a box together with all the insides from parts off this site.. if you could take a few more close up pictures of the board also please mate..Deben will be shitting there pants.. we need a price drop now and ferking refunds for our outlay on a bloody very cheap to build item.

thanks for posting the pics mate..

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:50 pm

in fact mate...if you dont want it..i will pay you the postage to send it to me...and i will take it around to my mate who loves an electrical challenge..i bet he can make one for a quarter of the price of debens once he sees how it works and gets the part numbers and a board diagram.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:59 pm

Deben will be shitting there pants.. we need a price drop now

Unlikely to get a refund from Deben,but your thinking on the right track,it shouldnt be difficult with a little savvy to offer these batteries at a much cheaper rate,the big firms always make cash on the ignorance of their customers.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:50 pm

Im gutted...do you know how much them poxy 18650 cells cost to buy ... ffsake..i been using them in my Custom cree Mag and Tiablo A9 for a few years..

have a look on this site for more goodies..ive just ordered a 75mm apsheric lens..mmmm.

http://s.dealextreme...geable battery.


I bet someone on this site could easy knock a box together with all the insides from parts off this site.. if you could take a few more close up pictures of the board also please mate..Deben will be shitting there pants.. we need a price drop now and ferking refunds for our outlay on a bloody very cheap to build item.

thanks for posting the pics mate..



i know its a bit heath robbinson ,, but if you got them parts, and cells,, you could just gafer tape them togeter, then put them in a tuppawear box,, with holes in one end for the wires.
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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:06 pm

Getting back to the original post - First of all that's a HUGE cell for that sort of money!! In fact, I'd be highly inclined to point a few of my motorbike racing pals in it's direction as that would be absolutely ideal for a total loss setup.

Beyond that though, that pack has a few obvious pro's and con's:

Firstly, the charger must be built into the pack - you can't have a cell stack that size and not use a balance charger, it'll just kill itself in jig time and usually with spectacular results - so there's no way in hell that little wall adapter is the actual charger (and if it is, then AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE!!). Operating on this assumption then, the pro is that you don't have to buy an Li charger for it.

The flip side of that is that you've no idea of the quality of the charger installed - and for Li to work properly, they genuinely do need a very well regulated charge.

The other con is that it doesn't list the discharge rating of the pack, so it's impossible to know how suitable it is for the type of draw that you would have off a halogen lamp. Personally, I couldn't see this cell having any hassle providing a sustained 5-6Amps, however, without a stated discharge rating there's no way of knowing for sure.

Hope this helps.

Edited by Extremetaz, 11 October 2011 - 03:07 pm.


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Posted 11 October 2011 - 05:27 pm

Im gutted...do you know how much them poxy 18650 cells cost to buy ... ffsake..i been using them in my Custom cree Mag and Tiablo A9 for a few years..

have a look on this site for more goodies..ive just ordered a 75mm apsheric lens..mmmm.

http://s.dealextreme...able%20battery.


I bet someone on this site could easy knock a box together with all the insides from parts off this site.. if you could take a few more close up pictures of the board also please mate..Deben will be shitting there pants.. we need a price drop now and ferking refunds for our outlay on a bloody very cheap to build item.

thanks for posting the pics mate..



i know its a bit heath robbinson ,, but if you got them parts, and cells,, you could just gafer tape them togeter, then put them in a tuppawear box,, with holes in one end for the wires.


im thinking one of these hard drive cases we all have for external hardrives..but now you mentioned the tupperware Tomo..our lass is looking worried why ive been emptying the back of the cuboards..she thought i was tidying up..LOL.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 05:28 pm

Getting back to the original post - First of all that's a HUGE cell for that sort of money!! In fact, I'd be highly inclined to point a few of my motorbike racing pals in it's direction as that would be absolutely ideal for a total loss setup.

Beyond that though, that pack has a few obvious pro's and con's:

Firstly, the charger must be built into the pack - you can't have a cell stack that size and not use a balance charger, it'll just kill itself in jig time and usually with spectacular results - so there's no way in hell that little wall adapter is the actual charger (and if it is, then AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE!!). Operating on this assumption then, the pro is that you don't have to buy an Li charger for it.

The flip side of that is that you've no idea of the quality of the charger installed - and for Li to work properly, they genuinely do need a very well regulated charge.

The other con is that it doesn't list the discharge rating of the pack, so it's impossible to know how suitable it is for the type of draw that you would have off a halogen lamp. Personally, I couldn't see this cell having any hassle providing a sustained 5-6Amps, however, without a stated discharge rating there's no way of knowing for sure.

Hope this helps.


The cell on the original link may not be the most suitable for the use we are looking for but there are plenty of alternatives on the alibaba site, with alot more information on discharge rates etc ;)

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 05:30 pm

Im gutted...do you know how much them poxy 18650 cells cost to buy ... ffsake..i been using them in my Custom cree Mag and Tiablo A9 for a few years..

have a look on this site for more goodies..ive just ordered a 75mm apsheric lens..mmmm.

http://s.dealextreme...able%20battery.


I bet someone on this site could easy knock a box together with all the insides from parts off this site.. if you could take a few more close up pictures of the board also please mate..Deben will be shitting there pants.. we need a price drop now and ferking refunds for our outlay on a bloody very cheap to build item.

thanks for posting the pics mate..



i know its a bit heath robbinson ,, but if you got them parts, and cells,, you could just gafer tape them togeter, then put them in a tuppawear box,, with holes in one end for the wires.
You would need some sort of foam to pack around the cell to stop it rattleing around inside the box but although its heath robinson it would definately do the job. ;)


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