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#1 wireviz

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:34 am

Its time my old dog went that long one way walk and he is starting to suffer. The only thing is he hates the vet and i really don't want to take him there and put him on a table to die in the cold clinical room while others out side get there soft pot lickers there first jags seems the wrong way to do things to me. So is it legal for me to take him a walk to his favourite hill and just put him to sleep there my self.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:44 am

I'm almost sure you can ..this subject has done been done before..I think the best duty of care to your animals means you can pretty much do whatever you want to your own animals providing they don't suffer. The analogy is if you shot your dog and it died instantly that's ok but if you shot it with an air rifle that would be cruelty

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 07:48 am

I'm almost sure you can ..this subject has done been done before..I think the best duty of care to your animals means you can pretty much do whatever you want to your own animals providing they don't suffer. The analogy is if you shot your dog and it died instantly that's ok but if you shot it with an air rifle that would be cruelty

Are you sure jt?. I didnt think it was legal. Be interested to see the legalities of this. On the other hand Wireviz i'm sure you will do fit legal or not.....sorry about your dog.... :thumbs:

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:24 am

The law here did change in its wording about best care for your animals to tidy up some very grey areas in animal welfare and the reading is as i remember that you must provide best care for your animals..now that does create more grey areas i know ..I mean what would you rather see if it was your animal ..a serious stressed out dog at the vets who's having his fourth attempt at getting the needle in or a happy animal sat on a hillside one moment and gone the next ..i know what it would be for me if i had the choice ..tough decisions for any man

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:28 am

The law here did change in its wording about best care for your animals to tidy up some very grey areas in animal welfare and the reading is as i remember that you must provide best care for your animals..now that does create more grey areas i know ..I mean what would you rather see if it was your animal ..a serious stressed out dog at the vets who's having his fourth attempt at getting the needle in or a happy animal sat on a hillside one moment and gone the next ..i know what it would be for me if i had the choice ..tough decisions for any man

Agree with you 100% mate on that bud. I can tell you know that no way i'd be able to pull the trigger but still the best way to go i think. :thumbs:

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:34 am


The law here did change in its wording about best care for your animals to tidy up some very grey areas in animal welfare and the reading is as i remember that you must provide best care for your animals..now that does create more grey areas i know ..I mean what would you rather see if it was your animal ..a serious stressed out dog at the vets who's having his fourth attempt at getting the needle in or a happy animal sat on a hillside one moment and gone the next ..i know what it would be for me if i had the choice ..tough decisions for any man

Agree with you 100% mate on that bud. I can tell you know that no way i'd be able to pull the trigger but still the best way to go i think. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

I'm same i couldn't do it ..but i've done the favour a couple of times when i was younger by being there for a mate who did

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:34 am

Sorry to hear that.. :(


I'm almost sure you can ..this subject has done been done before..I think the best duty of care to your animals means you can pretty much do whatever you want to your own animals providing they don't suffer. The analogy is if you shot your dog and it died instantly that's ok but if you shot it with an air rifle that would be cruelty

Are you sure jt?. I didnt think it was legal. Be interested to see the legalities of this. On the other hand Wireviz i'm sure you will do fit legal or not.....sorry about your dog.... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

It is legal. :yes: There was a court case a while back where some c**t of a meat head kicked his other half's yorkshire terrier to death. He was found not guilty of any offence because a: he bought her the dog, & b: it died instantly with one kick.

Dogs are classed as property of the owner, and it's not against the law to destroy your own property. It only becomes an offence if any suffering is caused in the process. :thumbs:

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:35 am

this may sound stupid and well its a case of why would you tell everyone your intensions .never the less . the law is a tricky job IF someone found out you shot your dog say with a rifle ,and it didnt say on your ticket ..for humane dispatch would the b...ds nick you , for not sticking to the conditions of your fac ,, i wouldnt shout it about if it was me ;)

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:37 am

Sorry to hear that.. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



I'm almost sure you can ..this subject has done been done before..I think the best duty of care to your animals means you can pretty much do whatever you want to your own animals providing they don't suffer. The analogy is if you shot your dog and it died instantly that's ok but if you shot it with an air rifle that would be cruelty

Are you sure jt?. I didnt think it was legal. Be interested to see the legalities of this. On the other hand Wireviz i'm sure you will do fit legal or not.....sorry about your dog.... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

It is legal. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... There was a court case a while back where some c**t of a meat head kicked his other half's yorkshire terrier to death. He was found not guilty of any offence because a: he bought her the dog, & b: it died instantly with one kick.

Dogs are classed as property of the owner, and it's not against the law to destroy your own property. It only becomes an offence if any suffering is caused in the process. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
Well there you go another thing learned from here..................cheers Malt. Think i'll nip up to the kennel and inform the dogs of the legallties of this, should improve the pups behaviour this season.... :D

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 08:46 am

this may sound stupid and well its a case of why would you tell everyone your intensions .never the less . the law is a tricky job IF someone found out you shot your dog say with a rifle ,and it didnt say on your ticket ..for humane dispatch would the b...ds nick you , for not sticking to the conditions of your fac ,, i wouldnt shout it about if it was me http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



That's a valid point, although I'd have thought that as a qualified stalker he'd have humane despatch on his ticket? :hmm:


Well there you go another thing learned from here..................cheers Malt. Think i'll nip up to the kennel and inform the dogs of the legallties of this, should improve the pups behaviour this season.... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


Get 'em told! :D

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 09:02 am


this may sound stupid and well its a case of why would you tell everyone your intensions .never the less . the law is a tricky job IF someone found out you shot your dog say with a rifle ,and it didnt say on your ticket ..for humane dispatch would the b...ds nick you , for not sticking to the conditions of your fac ,, i wouldnt shout it about if it was me http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



That's a valid point, although I'd have thought that as a qualified stalker he'd have humane despatch on his ticket? http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



If the legalities involved with the FAC are an issue use a shotgun.

Not really a nice thing to be talking about but it is a part of working dogs so I dont think talking about the subject in a respectfull way should be frowned on.

Personally I think you are making the right choice. :thumbs:
Just seems the right way to end it...

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 09:08 am



this may sound stupid and well its a case of why would you tell everyone your intensions .never the less . the law is a tricky job IF someone found out you shot your dog say with a rifle ,and it didnt say on your ticket ..for humane dispatch would the b...ds nick you , for not sticking to the conditions of your fac ,, i wouldnt shout it about if it was me http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



That's a valid point, although I'd have thought that as a qualified stalker he'd have humane despatch on his ticket? http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...



If the legalities involved with the FAC are an issue use a shotgun.

Not really a nice thing to be talking about but it is a part of working dogs so I dont think talking about the subject in a respectfull way should be frowned on.

Personally I think you are making the right choice. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
Just seems the right way to end it...

Agree on all counts. :yes: :thumbs:

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 09:15 am

If death is instant there should be no problem, but one thing to consider is that if you are shooting your own dog, you need to be very clinical and calm about it......could you be that detached, sure of your aim, etc etc??? Would you feel OK seeing the dead dog with a big hole in its head? (exit wound from shotgun a bit radical at very close range). It can be a bit of a shock even if you are used to shooting game etc.

Vets will come to an owner's home and put a dog down: of course they charge extra for the call out. I've not yet had a vet unable to find a vein, but I would never let an inexperienced vet near my dogs in any situation, let alone when putting a dog down.

All that matters IMO is that the dog's last moments are peaceful and not filled with fear.
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Posted 20 September 2011 - 09:25 am

If death is instant there should be no problem, but one thing to consider is that if you are shooting your own dog, you need to be very clinical and calm about it......could you be that detached, sure of your aim, etc etc??? Would you feel OK seeing the dead dog with a big hole in its head? (exit wound from shotgun a bit radical at very close range). It can be a bit of a shock even if you are used to shooting game etc.

Vets will come to an owner's home and put a dog down: of course they charge extra for the call out. I've not yet had a vet unable to find a vein, but I would never let an inexperienced vet near my dogs in any situation, let alone when putting a dog down.

All that matters IMO is that the dog's last moments are peaceful and not filled with fear.


Theres a VERY sobering story in 'Work them hard, treat them like heroes' when Harcombe put down his border Robbie. Relavent to what you have just said.

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Posted 20 September 2011 - 10:39 am

I had to do the deed last year with my lakeland dog,very loyal and hard worker all his life so not the easiest of things to do.In my mind the dog is yours and he has served you well through the years so its up to you to return the favour,a bench in a vets is not the way.Bring him to wherever he spent most of his good years and let him have a wander about,then when he is finished and tired do the deed.Nobody needs to know do they,and you will feel better yourself in the long run,atb,fm.


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