I never undersatnd the rule book.............. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
So you cant shoot unless you are doing it for a job, food or cleaning up vermin..............is shooting to some people not just a sport then..... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
Just wondering what the differnce is to someone shooting a stoat too someone shooting say a pigeon is. A stoat would be a problem for me but a pigeon would not so really i would rather shoot a stoat than a pigeon for finacial reasons...... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
We have them here and they mostly kill rabbits, if they got INTO a pen of poults you might have a problem, but that is generally your fault.
How would you stop one getting in your pen without killing it then mate?
I know what you are saying mate, but i meant that laying traps about the pen, in tunnels, and ensuring it's well fenced, and if needs be shooting them around the pens, is one thing.
Shooting any stoat on the shoot on sight is another.
We have them, they kill rabbits, don't ever really lose birds to them.
Fair enough mate, if you got a good reason and a healthy stoat population thats fine by me.
It's where folk hold onto the old idea that they are on the 'vermin' list and actively hunt/shoot them with no real reason other than something else to shoot.
I get what you mean now reading your first post I took it to mean that pens should be built to exclude stoats not an easy task as you can imagine http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... I do trap stoats and go out of my way to kill them but we have a number of red listed ground nesting birds on the estate and with them every one counts http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
should think the difference is that some use the excuse of vermin to hide their sport rather than duty http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
Yes mate, but shooting an animal like a stoat for sport is wrong imo.
Don't really want to write a long winded response as i have a smoke and beer with my name on it outside.
But for me it's to do with the population densitys and reproduction / expansion rate of certain animals vs others (i.e predetors vs prey).
Hunting for sport usually means a far greater number of kills than hunting for neccessity (forget hunting for money for the sec), so rather than removeing your problem stoat or stoats from an area, a sport hunter will keep pursuing said quarry / vermin until they all run out, which is achieved far quicker an easier than with other animals.
I also just don't get 'just killing' something for 'sport', i.e no reason at all other than that, as opposed to enjoying the sport of killing something with a reason.
You get me?