thanks for the input pestcontrol. so is the d480 better than the longbow from julian as the price is about the same . i probably wrong here but haven,t they both got the same tube,s in them ( nd4 - xr5 ).i allready use the archer b grade and i got no complain,s about it , but im on the road for a dedicated one and was thinking of the longbow with the xd4 tube in it . thanks again . http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
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The tube you are mentioning xr5 is good but a few people have had problems with it, slight bit of light and it dulls down so much you can't see your target, as for the xd4 i can't comment as i've had no 1st hand experience with but have heard it good.
The main reason the Longbow comes to light is that most are sold to gamekeepers which are bought by the estate and they are trying to buy the best and don't know that much about NV so the price comes into it, as the Longbow is one of the most expensive they feel it must be the best, i have around a dozen keepers that i have shown the Envis and PVS-14 also the D480 to and all of them can't believe how much better these units are and at half the price.
The easiest way is if i do a score out of ten but you must remember that an add-on and dedicated are completely different to each other.
D480 gen3 (Pinnacle Omni VI ) 10 out 10 (one of the best dedicated scope out there if you can find one for sale)
Kite gen 3 this unit was a bit special as it was built by the owner most kites are not that good as they suffer for bad parallax issues and were made to shoot man size target 8.5 out 10
Longbow gen 3 7 out 10
D760 gen3 (MX-10160 ) 8 out 10 (one of the best dedicated scope out there if you can find one for sale)
Envis (MX-10160) gen 3 9 out 10 (one of the best add-ons out there if you can find one for sale)
PVS-14 gen3 (Pinnacle MX-11769 ) 10out 10 (one of the best add-ons out there if you can find one for sale)
Archer gen3 5 out 10 (put a 10160 tube in it and its as good as anything else out there)
At the end of the day all these units will do the job and its down to how fussy you wish to be and YES i am fussy
best thing to do is get out and try the units side by side as this is the only way to tell, try to organise an NV meet near you or like myself when spending this sort of money travel as far as needed, i would rather waste £100 in fuel than a thousand pound + on something i find i'm not happy with.