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#16 Leeview

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 03:48 pm




OK fergie here goes http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... a stop net used as it says to stop fleeing rabbits,usually passed through a hedge and beyond,can be put in a clearing or anywhere to stop them escaping, length can be from 3yds up to 25yds or more
Gate nets usually the width of a farm gate,they are draped over the bottom of the gate and can held by stones (on the gate) which will be dislodged when a hare or rabbit hits the netand gets entangled
Poke nets are generally large purse nets with pegs at both ends or sides depending how you set the net
This basically is the simplest description of the 3 nets http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... you asked about
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no offence matey but youve done very little gatenetting ( if any )? if youdid you would know that it is very hardto balance the stones and it is also very loud not what you want when you plan to do the nieghbouring fields . . .
None taken http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... Balancing stones has never been a problem in the lime stone land, as for noise, what can I say ' keep the wind in your face' that way the game is running down wind http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...
These Pictures have more stones then I would normally use, just to show You.
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Just a couple of differant gates around the farm yard as an example
each to there own matey http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... ive tried using stones in the pitch black with numb hand and i found it very difficult so ill stick to my hazel pegs . . . do you use dogs mate ?
NO I found they could nt balance and fell off LOL
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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:13 pm

FECKIN HELL ,


TRY BALANCING STONES ON A ROUND BAR STEEL GATE ?????????
OR ....
AN OPEN ONE ???????

BALANCING STONES ON GATES .... IN MY OPINION CAME ABOUT THROUGH WRITERS BULLSHITTING ABOUT A SKILL THEY HAD NEVER LEARNED .......

WIND........... IN A MANS FACED NEVER HELPS WHEN YOU A MAKING A NOISE

POKE NETS ?

DOUBLE PEGS ........ ALWAYS ..... ON LARGER NETS

IF A MAN CANNOT SEE THE ADVANTAGES HES EITHER TOO DAFT TO TIE HIS OWN LACES OR NEVER USED A POKE NET


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Posted 25 October 2010 - 09:07 pm

FECKIN HELL ,


TRY BALANCING STONES ON A ROUND BAR STEEL GATE ?????????
OR ....
AN OPEN ONE ???????

BALANCING STONES ON GATES .... IN MY OPINION CAME ABOUT THROUGH WRITERS BULLSHITTING ABOUT A SKILL THEY HAD NEVER LEARNED .......

WIND........... IN A MANS FACED NEVER HELPS WHEN YOU A MAKING A NOISE

POKE NETS ?

DOUBLE PEGS ........ ALWAYS ..... ON LARGER NETS

IF A MAN CANNOT SEE THE ADVANTAGES HES EITHER TOO DAFT TO TIE HIS OWN LACES OR NEVER USED A POKE NET


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No one is disputing that poke nets should have double pegs. What was questioned, was the advatages of a double draw cord over a single draw cord.

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 09:08 pm

FECKIN HELL ,


TRY BALANCING STONES ON A ROUND BAR STEEL GATE ?????????
OR ....
AN OPEN ONE ???????

BALANCING STONES ON GATES .... IN MY OPINION CAME ABOUT THROUGH WRITERS BULLSHITTING ABOUT A SKILL THEY HAD NEVER LEARNED .......

WIND........... IN A MANS FACED NEVER HELPS WHEN YOU A MAKING A NOISE

POKE NETS ?

DOUBLE PEGS ........ ALWAYS ..... ON LARGER NETS

IF A MAN CANNOT SEE THE ADVANTAGES HES EITHER TOO DAFT TO TIE HIS OWN LACES OR NEVER USED A POKE NET


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Ha Ha, :thumbs: Like your style P1

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 09:17 pm

FECKIN HELL ,


TRY BALANCING STONES ON A ROUND BAR STEEL GATE ?????????
OR ....
AN OPEN ONE ???????

BALANCING STONES ON GATES .... IN MY OPINION CAME ABOUT THROUGH WRITERS BULLSHITTING ABOUT A SKILL THEY HAD NEVER LEARNED .......

WIND........... IN A MANS FACED NEVER HELPS WHEN YOU A MAKING A NOISE

POKE NETS ?

DOUBLE PEGS ........ ALWAYS ..... ON LARGER NETS

IF A MAN CANNOT SEE THE ADVANTAGES HES EITHER TOO DAFT TO TIE HIS OWN LACES OR NEVER USED A POKE NET


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Duckwing the second picture is a round bar steel gate :whistling:
a stop net would be better in an open gate :whistling:
the wind is taking the sound/noise away from the quarry :whistling:
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Posted 26 October 2010 - 04:28 pm

SO FELLAS ,

THE WIND IS BILLOWING THE WEB TOWARDS YOU ROUND YER BODY AND FEET , WHILST YOU ARE FIDDLING WITH A POCKET FULL OF ROCKS AND MAKING A BALANCING ACT OF WEIGHING THE TOP CORD DOWN ON A NET ......???
COME ON ....... EVEN A DOPE WOULD BE THINKING " HELL SURELY THERES A BETTER WAY ? "

AND HE WOULD BE RIGHT ..... THERES IS !

A GATE NET SET CORRECTLY IS FINE IN AN OPEN GATE , TRACK , ROAD ETC ....... THE OPTIONS OF SETTING SUCH A TOOL ARE UNLIMITED .....

WIND ? ...... WELL LETS JUST SAY

IT DOESNT MATTER IF THE WINDS IN YER FACE .. IF YOU ARE MAKING NOISE TO AN ANIMAL THAT HAS RUN THE GAUNTLET OF MAN BEFORE ... IT KNOWS THERES DANGER IN THE AIR AND THE SLIGHTEST NOISE WILL HAVE THEM RUNNING !!

TIERCEL ......

ASK YER SELF THIS ONE ........ HOW FAR DOES A SIX FOOT LONG PURSE NET SLIDER HAVE TO TRAVEL BEFORE ITS FULLY PURSED IN A ONE PEGGED NET ????????????? AND HOW FAR A NET SLIDEING FROM BOTH PEGS HAS TO TRAVEL ????????????


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Posted 26 October 2010 - 07:40 pm

"the wind is billowing etc etc" that applies to setting a long net as well but manage to set them OK :thumbs: the stones would already be close to hand at the gate PPPPPP :thumbs:
I stated under the pictures I'd put more stones on as an example :thumbs: a gate net is used on gates, if there is nt a gate your using a stop net surely?

WIND how do you get to the gate without making a noise/alarming the animal? once again you use the wind in your face :thumbs:
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Posted 27 October 2010 - 06:51 pm

NO MATE ,


A GATE NET CAN AND IS USED IN MANY LOCATIONS ..........

TELL ME LEEVIEW ,

HOW WOULD YOU NET AN AREA DEVOID OF HEDGES OR FENCES ??? ARMED ONLY WITH A FEW GATE NETS AND A COUPLE OF 6 FOOT SQUARE , SQUARE MESHED NETS ??
IT CAN BE DONE , IVE SEEN IT AND DONE IT ........

A STOP NET IS JUST A SHORT LONG NET .... FINE FOR A SPOT OF RABBITTING , THOUGH NOT A SPECIALIST TOOL FOR TAKING A FEW HARES OF A NIGHT ....


STONES ON A GATE ... REALLY ISNT THE WAY TO GO MATE , ITS VERY AMATURISH ... OFTEN I CAN TAKE THREE OR FOUR HARES FROM THE SAME GATE WITHIN A FEW MINUTES , HOW THE FECK ARE YOU GOING TO SET YER NET IN THE DARK ??? MORE STONES ? , PERHAPS A SMALL BASKET BESIDE YOU ???? GRUB AROUND ON HANDS AND KNEES,,,,,, FEELING IN THE DARK ,,,,,[ ISNT THAT A SONG ? :laugh: ] GOD FORBID ... PUT A TORCH ON ????
SORRY MATE ..... THE STONES JUST DONT WEIGH UP :D

SOUNDS AS WE ALL KNOW ......AFFECT GAME DIFFERENTLY , THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MUFFLED FOOTFALLS IN PASTURE TO A HARE OR RABBIT THATS LIVED ALONG SIDE CATTLE AND SHEEP AND THE TINNY SOUND OF A STEEL GATE WHICH OPENS RARELY , LOOK HOW UNAFFECTED BY TRAFFIC NOISE SOME RABBITS ARE YET BOLT AT THE SOUND OF A MANS FEET ON THE ROAD SURFACE ....

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 04:06 pm

NO MATE ,


A GATE NET CAN AND IS USED IN MANY LOCATIONS ..........

TELL ME LEEVIEW ,

HOW WOULD YOU NET AN AREA DEVOID OF HEDGES OR FENCES ??? ARMED ONLY WITH A FEW GATE NETS AND A COUPLE OF 6 FOOT SQUARE , SQUARE MESHED NETS ??
IT CAN BE DONE , IVE SEEN IT AND DONE IT ........

A STOP NET IS JUST A SHORT LONG NET .... FINE FOR A SPOT OF RABBITTING , THOUGH NOT A SPECIALIST TOOL FOR TAKING A FEW HARES OF A NIGHT ....


STONES ON A GATE ... REALLY ISNT THE WAY TO GO MATE , ITS VERY AMATURISH ... OFTEN I CAN TAKE THREE OR FOUR HARES FROM THE SAME GATE WITHIN A FEW MINUTES , HOW THE FECK ARE YOU GOING TO SET YER NET IN THE DARK ??? MORE STONES ? , PERHAPS A SMALL BASKET BESIDE YOU ???? GRUB AROUND ON HANDS AND KNEES,,,,,, FEELING IN THE DARK ,,,,,[ ISNT THAT A SONG ? http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub... ] GOD FORBID ... PUT A TORCH ON ????
SORRY MATE ..... THE STONES JUST DONT WEIGH UP http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

SOUNDS AS WE ALL KNOW ......AFFECT GAME DIFFERENTLY , THERES A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MUFFLED FOOTFALLS IN PASTURE TO A HARE OR RABBIT THATS LIVED ALONG SIDE CATTLE AND SHEEP AND THE TINNY SOUND OF A STEEL GATE WHICH OPENS RARELY , LOOK HOW UNAFFECTED BY TRAFFIC NOISE SOME RABBITS ARE YET BOLT AT THE SOUND OF A MANS FEET ON THE ROAD SURFACE ....

ALL THE BEST


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A GATE NET TO MYSELF IS USED ON THE BOTTOM OF A GATE DRAPED OVER THE BOTTOM FOOT OF IT AND A STOP NET CAN BE USED IN AN OPEN GATEWAY OR A SIMILAR GAP :thumbs:
"HOW WOULD I NET AN AREA DEVOID OF HEDGES" SIMPLY I WOULD USE WHAT WAS APPROPRIATE TO DO THE JOB BUT PRAY TELL HOW A FEW GATE NETS AND A COUPLE OF SQUARE MESHED 6FT NETS COVER HOW MUCH AREA?
"STONES ON A GATE" NOW YOUR CONFUSING MYSELF IMHO THE SAID GATE NET COLLAPSES BALLING A HARE IN IT :whistling: AND YOUR TELLING THAT YOU HAVE CAUGHT 3OR4 FROM THE SAME GATEWAY IN MINUTES :hmm: NOW FAIR ENOUGH BUT HARES ARE VERY VOCAL UNDER STRESS AND OTHERS WILL PANIC AND STAY CLEAR IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES :whistling: AND THEN YOU ASK HOW I WOULD SET THE NET IN THE DARK? POSSIBLY THE SAME AS YOU? AS I SAID IN MY EARLIER POST THE STONES WOULD BE PUT CLOSE BY READY TO BE USED PPPPPPP :thumbs:
"SOUND AS WE ALL KNOW" IT DOES IF THEY CAN HEAR IT BUT USING THE WIND TO CARRY AWAY THE NOISE AND SCENT DOES NT ALERT THE QUARRY, NOW AS FOR HARES LIVING ALONGSIDE SHEEP AND CATTLE I'VE FOUND THAT VERY FEW HARES WOULD LIVE IN THE SAME PASTURES AT THE SAME TIME :whistling:HARES ARE NOCTURNAL ANIMALS THAT SETTLE DOWN FOR THE DAY AND DONT DO WELL WITH BEING CONSTANTLY DISTURBED BY CATTLE,SHEEP OR HORSES GRAZING NEARBY
Good Luck
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Posted 28 October 2010 - 05:37 pm

HI MATE ,

FROM YOUR POST I CAN SEE IVE CONFUSED YOU .... I AINT A WRITER SO PLEASE EXCUSE !

I WILL TRY AND ANSWER MY THOUGHTS ON GATE NETTING ....... A LITTLE CLEARER ...

FIRSTLY ,

I CAN HONESTLY SEE FROM YOUR QUESTIONING OF MULTIPLE CATCHES AT THE SAME GATEWAY WITHIN A FEW MINUTES THAT YOU HAVENT DONE A GREAT DEAL OF NIGHT TIME GATE NETTING OF HARES , ITS VERY COMMON TO CATCH MULTIPLES .... HENCE MY THOUGHTS
ALSO YOU MENTION DRAPPING THE NET OVER THE BOTTOM FOOT OF A GATE ... TO ME THIS IS ALL WRONG AND YOU WILL MISS MANY HARES , THE NET ISNT HIGH ENOUGH ... IMO ..... FOR A FEW REASONS
FIRSTLY ... MANY HARES INSTEAD OF PUSHING THROUGH THE BOTTOM COME THROUGH THE FIRST RAIL GAP AND IN LONG STUFF SOMETIMES THE SECOND ! .... SUCH HARES YOU WOULD MISS .....
SECONDLY ....... AS A HARE RISES FROM THE NET IF COMING UNDER THE GATE .... IT WILL CATCH THE NET AT THE BEGINING OF THE NET AND NOT AS IT SHOULD , IN THE CENTRE , HENCE QUITE A FEW WILL THROW OFF SUCH A SET WEB .....YOU WILL HAVE A GOOD 2/3 rds OF IT LYING ON THE BOTTOM !
YES CERTAIN HARES WILL PUSH BACK FROM A GATE IF THEY HEAR SOMETHING A WRY .... HOWEVER A DECENT DOG .... STEADILY .... PUSHING THE HARE WILL GET IT IN A NET , IT MAY BE THE 6 " POKE NET TO THE RIGHT OF YOU 30 YDS UP THE HEDGE , OR TO YER MATES WEBS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FIELD ...... BUT .... IT WILL GO IN ....
OTHER HARES WILL HIT YOUR NET .... IF YOU HAVE DONE THE HOMEWORK

HARES , DEER , FOXES ETC ..... USE THE SAME RUNS NOW AS THEY DID WHEN I HUNTED AREAS 30 ODD YRS AGO , THE SAME GATES , COME OUT THE SAME SIDE OF THE GATE , RUN THE SAME LINES OF A WOOD ETC ....... THATS THE KEY TO USING A NET ON THEM ......
IVE CAUGHT HARES ON BRIDGES , TRACKS AND PATHS ON OPEN GROUND ..... YOU JUST HAVE TO DO YER HOMEWORK AND HAVE A DECENT EYE ..

ONE PATCH I WORK REGULARY CONSISTS OF 5 FIELDS AROUND 30 ACRES EACH , ALL THE HARES MAKE FOR A TRIANGULAR BREAK OF WOODLAND WITH A SIDE GATE GOING UP ON TO A RAILWAY LINE , NET THIS GATE AND YOU HAVE THEM ...... THE HARD PART IS TRAINING A DOG TO GET USED TO WORK SO FAR OUT BY ITSELF :thumbs:
LAST YEAR IN ONE 2 AND A BIT HOUR SPELL I TOOK 7 HARES AND A RABBIT FROM THIS ONE GATE ....

LEEVIEW , . I HUNTED FAR AND WIDE AND I WILL TELL YOU THIS .......

JUST A FEW DAYS AGO I COUNTED 14 HARES IN ONE PASTURE WITH SHEEP IN IT . SAME NIGHT .... 9 HARES AND 5 HARES IN OTHER FIELDS , ONE WITH CATTLE THE OTHER EMPTY ....
THE ONLY TIME IVE SEEN HARES AND RABBITS KEEP AWAY FROM FIELDS IS WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN MUCK SPREAD , OTHERWISE THEY TEND TO " FOLLOW THE FOLIAGE ! "

IAM HUNTING HARE , FOXES AND DEER THAT STILL LIE IN THE SAME SPOTS AND STILL RUN THE SAME TRAVEL LINES THAT THEIR ANCESTORS RUN WHEN THE OLD MEN THAT SHOWED ME THEM WERE NIPPERS ........ AND SO THE RIVER RUNS ON ......

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 06:21 pm

Surely a few privet wands would be better than a pocket of stones??????????????????????????

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Posted 28 October 2010 - 07:39 pm

Duckwing your only slightly confusing me :laugh: I gave my views and asked you for yours :yes: I too have hunted the hare pre-ban the length and breadth of England. No dogs were (or very seldom) used to drive the hare forward to the nets often 7-800yds in a line interspersed with stop nets(at right angles) to catch any that tried to run the nets and these nets never were fixed down just hung by the topline :thumbs:
OK back to the gate nets :laugh: the fields I gate netted on had drystone walls around them and not many had 2 gates in them.
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 09:43 pm

LEEVIEW ,


THERE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN .....

NETTING DAYTIME AND NIGHT ,,,,,,, POACHING AND PERMISSION

DRYSTONE WALLS ...... WELL ..... ANYONE CAN CATCH ON A STONE WALLED PADDOCK ... WITH A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE AND A LITTLE PREPERATION ......
THOUGH ...... AS A KID I KEPT LOOSING HARES IN ONE PLACE , I KNEW THEY WERE THERE BUT COULDNT GET THEM TO TRAVEL TO THE GATE OR THE LAMB HOLES IN THE WALL .... THEN I SPOTTED A FEW PAD MARKS IN A PATCH OF MUD .. THE HARES WERE JUMPING UP IN THE CORNER OF THE WALLS ABOUT 6 FEET HIGH AND DOWN THE OTHER SIDE THEN OUT ON TO THE FELL , SCRATCHES ON THE WALL PROVED THEIR UNDOING ..... WITHOUT CAREFUL AND KNOWLEDGEABLE DAYTIME RECCYS ..... MANY NIGHTS CAN BE FRUITLESS IN THE GATE NETTING GAME ,,,,,,,,,,,

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 11:35 am

Surely a few privet wands would be better than a pocket of stones??????????????????????????


My thoughts exactly. Now i am in no way a good netter but through the nineties i did mess around with gate nets and the like. I tried the 'noted' way with stones and pieces of wood, but it just wasn't right. In the end, after a little thought, i used a short 8-10 yard long net and three hazels. This was set tight to the gate on both sides with the middle of the net being out from the gate in a triangular pattern. Hares and rabbits would run under the gate and be on their way when they hit the net and were tangled. Like i say, i didnt use this much, but it did work better than the old fashioned method and i dare say that you would be able to untangle a hare in a matter of seconds and have the net re-set very quickly indeed even in darkness ready for another one. :thumbs:

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 07:51 pm

LEEVIEW ,


THERE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN .....

NETTING DAYTIME AND NIGHT ,,,,,,, POACHING AND PERMISSION

DRYSTONE WALLS ...... WELL ..... ANYONE CAN CATCH ON A STONE WALLED PADDOCK ... WITH A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE AND A LITTLE PREPERATION ......
THOUGH ...... AS A KID I KEPT LOOSING HARES IN ONE PLACE , I KNEW THEY WERE THERE BUT COULDNT GET THEM TO TRAVEL TO THE GATE OR THE LAMB HOLES IN THE WALL .... THEN I SPOTTED A FEW PAD MARKS IN A PATCH OF MUD .. THE HARES WERE JUMPING UP IN THE CORNER OF THE WALLS ABOUT 6 FEET HIGH AND DOWN THE OTHER SIDE THEN OUT ON TO THE FELL , SCRATCHES ON THE WALL PROVED THEIR UNDOING ..... WITHOUT CAREFUL AND KNOWLEDGEABLE DAYTIME RECCYS ..... MANY NIGHTS CAN BE FRUITLESS IN THE GATE NETTING GAME ,,,,,,,,,,,

ALL THE BEST


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DUCKWING permission is something I've never been short of and obviously there is a difference twixt daytime and nighttime netting
I must have little knowledge BUT preparation/planning played a big part :thumbs: watching hares enter and leave a field pays dividends :thumbs:
Is "pad marks" a local remark to where you are? hares and rabbits as Im sure your aware dont have pads
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