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Posted 30 September 2006 - 08:19 pm

http://www.abirdshom...pm/spartrap.htm

im goign to have a go at making one

what do people reckon to them and has anyone else every used them


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Posted 30 September 2006 - 08:20 pm

Erm.....is it true that the sparrow is now protected?.....if so, best left alone... :hmm:

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 08:25 pm

Erm.....is it true that the sparrow is now protected?.....if so, best left alone... http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...


I believe starlings are as well. There was an article in sporting shooter about starlings and sparrows being removed from the pest list a while ago. Maybe the trap could be modified for other pests.

Edited by Born Hunter, 30 September 2006 - 08:27 pm.


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Posted 30 September 2006 - 08:28 pm

i was thinking of making a bigger version for maybe black birds or magpies ect

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 08:39 pm

I dont think you would ever catch a magpie in that sort of trap. I cant see why one would want to enter it? Its designed to attract cavity nesting birds looking for a nesting site ;)

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 09:01 pm

It certainly looks an interesting design - I wander if it could be adapted for rats & mice ? Maybe partly buried ?


Anyway - you need to familiarise yourself with the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.


Blackbirds are a nono :nono:

The starting position is that ALL birds are protected. There are then licenses issued to allow some birds to be killed or taken.

There is a 'General License' that allows pest specicies to be taken


Canada Goose

Crow
Dove, Collared
Gull, Great Black-backed
Gull, Lesser Black-backed
Gull, Herring
Jackdaw
Jay
Magpie
Pigeon, Feral
Rook
Woodpigeon

http://www.defra.gov...gen-licence.htm

Over and above that there are sometimes 'individual' licenses granted for controlling specific species e.g. Ruddy Duck

And of course game birds in season



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Posted 30 September 2006 - 10:02 pm

Sparrows and Starlings have Most Definately been removed from the 'General Lisence'. Leve Well Alone!

What in gods name do you want to catch them for anyway? Sake of killing? :rolleyes:

Please familiarise yeself with the Law, before rushing out with a bulge in ye trousers. Talk about giving Field Sports a bad name!

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Posted 30 September 2006 - 11:00 pm

Many moons ago, erm about 30 years ago, I used to go out with the catty and sparrows were the normal target. Jump forward to today and sadly the house sparrow/hedge sparrow is hardly anywhere to be seen. As a teenager I didn't think, nowadays if I throw a few pieces of bread out in the garden it's there for days, it's true the common birds are becoming rare :(

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Posted 01 October 2006 - 08:33 am

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QUOTE(john b @ Sep 30 2006, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

It certainly looks an interesting design - I wander if it could be adapted for rats & mice ? Maybe partly buried ?


Anyway - you need to familiarise yourself with the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981.


Blackbirds are a nono :nono:

The starting position is that ALL birds are protected. There are then licenses issued to allow some birds to be killed or taken.

There is a 'General License' that allows pest specicies to be taken


Canada Goose

Crow
Dove, Collared
Gull, Great Black-backed
Gull, Lesser Black-backed
Gull, Herring
Jackdaw
Jay
Magpie
Pigeon, Feral
Rook
Woodpigeon

http://www.defra.gov...gen-licence.htm

Over and above that there are sometimes 'individual' licenses granted for controlling specific species e.g. Ruddy Duck

And of course game birds in season

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Posted 01 October 2006 - 11:34 pm

i agree with the lads but it's a pretty neat trap though

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 01:35 am

Shaman ..... (Sorry to be bending ye thread here, Iceaz. But I take it it's about finished?) ..... When I grew up ~ and yes, incredibly, I can still remember my early childhood! :icon_eek: ~ there were two things so ubiquitous I just took them for granted: White, crumbly Dog shit (because way back then there were no computers and no one had thought of grinding chickens feet up with carcinogens and selling them for a fortune in greasy sacks, to feed Dogs with) and there were House Sparrows chirruping from every roof guttering in my home town.

Time warp foreward half a century. Nothing! Would you believe, the House Sparrow, FFS, is now on the British Trust for Ornithology's Red List?! The little f***as are teetering on the egde of extinction in the british isles! :icon_eek: Just un f***ing believable! Incomprehensable!!!

Worst of it is; The white Dog shit stands to be making a come back. That's easy. Feed ye Dogs right and voillah! But the Sparrow? We just don't know Why, mate!

Generations, centuries of blokes like us have reared untold ferrets on knocking over Flocks of sparrows. I used to catch them by the dozens, week in, week out. It was like catching rats: Just never dented them. Now ....? And the Starlings too though. Like, WTF is happening, man?

I've always fed the wild birds in my garden. For several years I religiously counted them too. So I can tell ye for a personally recorded Fact: Feed the little buggers, year round, summer and winter and their numbers Will build up. I've done it. I even strenghened my other addresses sparrow flock so much that one cock bird broke away and started a new flock of his own - then I moved and god knows what became of them :(

Now, here in the bogs of Very rural Eire? I'm feeding the birds, but there's no BTO to record for. But my eyes tell me; There's No shortage of the little House Sparrow over here.

You tell me! :unsure:

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 03:49 pm

It is two factors......the "neat" UPVC guttering is taking away the sparrows nesting holes and also the fact that our gardens are neater, sprayed for pests too, which decreases the amount of food available for the young. Sparrows have to rear their young on insects, they cannot rear on anything else, hence, reduction of insects, a reduction of sparrows. It is a crying shame as there used to be loads round me. :no:

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Posted 02 October 2006 - 04:05 pm

they seem to slowly be making a come back near me :)

Edited by Clipper, 02 October 2006 - 04:08 pm.


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Posted 02 October 2006 - 06:44 pm

It is two factors......the "neat" UPVC guttering is taking away the sparrows nesting holes and also the fact that our gardens are neater, sprayed for pests too, which decreases the amount of food available for the young. Sparrows have to rear their young on insects, they cannot rear on anything else, hence, reduction of insects, a reduction of sparrows. It is a crying shame as there used to be loads round me. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/pub...

theres a small flock around 10 where i work and one of them is so tame the little fecker land on your finger for food...i personaly have seen this bird feed its babys bombay mix :clapper:

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 04:06 pm

looks class for catching rats and mice :) would need to make a chute on there out of metal i expect though know what they'r like :icon_eek:




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