best rat poison

[pluckers son 0]

need some good poison for the rats under my shed, bought some RODEX poison put it in a bait box 2 weeks ago but rats are still there, is there any stronger poison on the market i can get.

[Guest TERRIERCENTRAL]

a ferret a terrier or traps dont use poison they will go of under your shed die then stink to high heavens mate thats what i would do anyway hope its some help

[pluckers son 0]

used traps caught 1 then nothing for 3 weeks, i want them gone mate soon as possible.

[nod 285]

stronger poison doesn't get rid of them quicker just means they need less of it to kill them,

[stubby 175]

obvious from your question, that you should'ent even be dabbling with poisons, get yourself a smoker and some terriers, thats your quickest, SAFEST option

[Matt 160]

It's not the 'poison' you use, but how you use it that makes the difference.

 

What is the formulation of the bait you've chosen? Is it grain, blocks, or something else?

 

What is the active ingredient and concentration of the bait?

 

How have you placed it? Is it in a box, a tray or just loose on the ground?

 

How long have you been baiting, and how much has been eaten?

 

Have you correctly estimated the size of the population?

 

Have you allowed enough time for the bait to work (most need at least three days after a lethal dose has been consumed)?

 

What is the source of the infestation, and how and why are they there?

 

What precautions have you taken to ensure that the bait cannot be moved, and cannot be accessed by non-target species and pets etc?

 

 

As you can see, just 'putting some bait down' is not always that simple. I know I sound like a stuck record, but why do people insist of risking their own health and that of the families and pets by trying to sort out problems like this for themselves?

 

Most local authorities offer free or subsidised rodent control services, and even if you have to use a private sector company, the cost needent be that high. Most private pest controllers charge between £30 and £50 per visit, and can often cure problems quicker and safer than your average householder.

 

Is it just that people are too mean? Or is it some sort of macho "I can sort this myself" thing?

 

You can't just pop onto and internet forum, give us part of the story and expect to get all the answers..................

[comanche 2,799]

It's not the 'poison' you use, but how you use it that makes the difference.

 

What is the formulation of the bait you've chosen? Is it grain, blocks, or something else?

 

What is the active ingredient and concentration of the bait?

 

How have you placed it? Is it in a box, a tray or just loose on the ground?

 

How long have you been baiting, and how much has been eaten?

 

Have you correctly estimated the size of the population?

 

Have you allowed enough time for the bait to work (most need at least three days after a lethal dose has been consumed)?

 

What is the source of the infestation, and how and why are they there?

 

What precautions have you taken to ensure that the bait cannot be moved, and cannot be accessed by non-target species and pets etc?

 

 

As you can see, just 'putting some bait down' is not always that simple. I know I sound like a stuck record, but why do people insist of risking their own health and that of the families and pets by trying to sort out problems like this for themselves?

 

Most local authorities offer free or subsidised rodent control services, and even if you have to use a private sector company, the cost needent be that high. Most private pest controllers charge between £30 and £50 per visit, and can often cure problems quicker and safer than your average householder.

 

Is it just that people are too mean? Or is it some sort of macho "I can sort this myself" thing?

 

You can't just pop onto and internet forum, give us part of the story and expect to get all the answers..................

Perfect advice Matt .

Please Plucker take note . We all like to try to save abit of cash and feel capable of having a go ourselves but the very fact thatyou are asking for advice indicates that you don't understand what you are dealing with.

I used to get a bit up in arms everytime I heard someone suggest that certain pest control products should not be available to the public . I'd liken it to not being allowed to buy a saw unless you were a proper carpenter . Over the last few years though I've concluded that a lot of products really should'nt be generally available thanks to some very dodgy things that I've seen perpetrated by otherwise intelligent people . This is not about Pest controllers making exra money by preventing DIY efforts it is about getting the right results and reducing risk. If you are short of cash don't waste any more . If rats are coming in large numbers from another premises where there is no control you are just scratching the surface .

Edited January 14, 2010 by comanche

[pluckers son 0]

It's not the 'poison' you use, but how you use it that makes the difference.

 

What is the formulation of the bait you've chosen? Is it grain, blocks, or something else?

 

What is the active ingredient and concentration of the bait?

 

How have you placed it? Is it in a box, a tray or just loose on the ground?

 

How long have you been baiting, and how much has been eaten?

 

Have you correctly estimated the size of the population?

 

Have you allowed enough time for the bait to work (most need at least three days after a lethal dose has been consumed)?

 

What is the source of the infestation, and how and why are they there?

 

What precautions have you taken to ensure that the bait cannot be moved, and cannot be accessed by non-target species and pets etc?

 

 

As you can see, just 'putting some bait down' is not always that simple. I know I sound like a stuck record, but why do people insist of risking their own health and that of the families and pets by trying to sort out problems like this for themselves?

 

Most local authorities offer free or subsidised rodent control services, and even if you have to use a private sector company, the cost needent be that high. Most private pest controllers charge between £30 and £50 per visit, and can often cure problems quicker and safer than your average householder.

 

Is it just that people are too mean? Or is it some sort of macho "I can sort this myself" thing?

 

You can't just pop onto and internet forum, give us part of the story and expect to get all the answers..................

 

the poison is grain called rodex and contains Bromadiolone.

 

the poison is placed in a bait box with lid on so birds or pets can not get to it

 

been baiting for a week now, but ive only been puting a hand full of poison down and i read a rat need to eat 5-7g to work fully on the rat

 

ive seen 4 rats upto now and think there comming from the allotment across the road

 

got some more poison today and filled the bait box making sure nothing spilled out for birds to get at

 

pest controler is out of the question because iam on the dole being laid off from work so money is tight

[Matt 160]

I'm not sure where you got the information that 5-7 grammes of Bromadialone is enough to kill a rat - but it's not true.

 

They will need at least 2, and probably 3 feeds of the bait before they consume a lethal dose. Then there will be 3-7 days before it takes effect and they die. Even then, don't expect to see bodies lying around - they usually die in their burrows.

 

Rats are 'neophobic' which means that they will take some time (usually up to a week, but sometimes a month) before they will enter a plastic box and eat from it. Even then, there is a danger that they will not consume a full dose, but 'pick' at the bait until they are sure it is safe to eat (that is presuming that they are neither tolerant nor resistant to the active ingredient).

 

Although you've only seen 4 rats, there could be a lot more, and don't expect the problem to be solved a week after you've put bait down.

 

You should also inform the local authority that you believe that the allotments are infested with rats - it's their responsibility to make sure that the occupiers get the rats controlled to prevent the obvious risk to the health of neighbouring people. Even if they don't sort the rats out, they can and should carry out enforcement action to ensure this kind of thing doesn't happen.

 

What has made your garden so attractive that they've travelled to it?

 

Have you tried contacting your local authority? Most offer free service for domestic properties. Even if they don't, being on the dole is no excuse for not doing the job properly. Try the Social Fund - it's there to provide for emergency situations like this when people are on benefits.

 

Don't piss about with rats - every day that you continue to try and sort the problem yourself, you, your family, and your pets are at serious risk.

Edited January 13, 2010 by Matt the Rat

[pluckers son 0]

got 2 in the traps i baited wih peanut butter, 1 about 5pm and 1 at 8pm nothing this morning have to see what tonite brings

[comanche 2,799]

got 2 in the traps i baited wih peanut butter, 1 about 5pm and 1 at 8pm nothing this morning have to see what tonite brings

Nice one ! so much more satisfying than poisoning too I'll bet

[festa 206]

matt the rat is spot on with his info as for paying most allotments belong to the LA so you might not need to pay mate

 

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