Tend to agree with you Neil, they could be a tad stubborn, but after being brought up in kennels and years in the game itself, I will say that the good points far outweighed the bad. Very deep scenting hounds and although they never seemed to be racing they were fast. Being bigger they had a longer stride and on a good scenting day could leave horses easily. I remember cubbing at Corrie once and they got away across the hills on an old fox. Couldnt live with them on horses and totally lost them. Despite searching all day,they were finally located the next morning over 10 miles away and still h