Nick

With noiseless are we talking about not barking as Big G mentions or also about the excitement sounds as seen by over enthousiastic dogs? And if the later is also the case why is that? Function or just a preference?

Not everything can be explained.

Lets be fair, the DJT is also a lot about looks. The dog is shaped to a image the creators thought they should have. Shape is a IMPORTANT selection criteria for the germans where with the Pat/Fell work is most important and the rest will hopefully follow. Let us look at the canine gladiator the Pitbull, do we think they would cull a undershot Champion or Grandchampion? Or even considder not breeding him/her? Would the Pitbull be the dog it is today? And lets not forget that most undershot dogs are undershot because they have a extreme strong underjaw compared to dogs with a normal bi

Have seen bulldogs, staffs and dogo's with undershot mouths that where/are 200% workingdogs and would not think twice to breed from them. Only concern would be if the undershot mouth is undershot too much as this would weaken the bite.A little undershot is even considert to be more powerfull then a scissor bite. Overshot is a bigger fault as that weakens a bite, I would never breed from a overshot dog myself.

No, but it depends of what you want from your breeding results. Do you think the mix will give the character you want from the offspring? Reproducing (keeping the working qualities)on the other hand for the generation after this cross might(can) be difficult.

Friend of mine had done it. As far as I know 100%, and no side effects heard of.

Specially when you buy it from ebay. In Germany a lot of sellers.

Yes works on a B&F colar.

LOL, no not really [BANNED TEXT], do not even in the same country is that you mr stevens? lol

If the dad would quith I would cull the whole litter. If it was 2 to 3 weeks after the mating you can give the bitch a injection so all pups would be driven out.

Northern Lad are you reading this from a book or are you serious?KC papers tell idiots what they want to hear,show people NEVER NEVER put the proper breeding of their champs for all to see,they would be afraid some competitor would know what way they crossed this and that line or particular dog to some particular bitch to get some show shite champion or champions.They always stick in one or two wrong ones in the peds when selling or registering,the pups may not be even from the same litter.The serious working terrier man(not the fly by night men)can trace his peds for years and years all down

If it is for your own use, only breed from the best one and cross with the best you have access to. Linebreeding or inbreeding does work, but make sure the dogs in question are worth line or inbreeding from. And always keep in mind that not only the good things will (hopefully)be preserved, but also possibly the bad things. If not really a lot of knowledge of the line of the dogs and their individual ancestors, use the best outcross you can find.

A undershot jaw(if not severe) is not a problem at all. A undershot jaw is mostly caused by a strong underjaw. In showdogs breeding generation after generation only for scissor bites they get another problem. They select out all dogs with a undershot jaw or parents who gave undershot pups. This results in a big increase of inverted canines. This means that the big underteeth point inwards into the palate. This is caused mostly by a narrow underjaw. If you use your (good)worker with a undershot jaw well and don't overdo doubling up those traits, there is no problem at all. Some in Pitdogs e

Hope you have some luck with it Frank70

But they expected probably what we all expected, a negative view on matters. And if you don't have the people around who can explain things well, you can do more harm then good. So who knows, better that they kept them out.