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Nice crew lid.

His early stuff I saw were miniature pits but slate grey . I saw some pics of rough coated stuff that he'd bred too earlier but it was the smooth black bully head that was his type .Wheeler took some of this and added more bull and it has to be said ,neglecting work he went this route I didnt see his early stuff just dogs bred from the early 90's onwards. The dogs i seen were at both ends of the digging scale, some were 11" rooters and some were big strong digging types. These were from the man himself not from other kennels and like i mentioned a couple were very border like in appearanc

I ran a lot of young dogs on for Brian around that time and never seen anything bordery in any of them,a lot of lads breed black fells and patts quoting them as being bred from him but most have never come from him, his stuff at that time was very typey and the right size for work, like most breeders he ran 2lines and depending who you were or knew depended on what pup he sold you, I have seen a few of his smaller stuff lately and they look like black pugs,in all the time we ran pups on we never had a jibber,some were a little too hard for a long life but looked very similar, WM Ok mate i n

Early 90's Seen some nuttalls straight from the man himself and they looked very "Bordery" .

Terrible news to get especially this time of year RIP RON.

Cracking examples of the cross gvc.

EE be a "proper" collie cross EE be sirius

Thats a nice piece.

Happy days lid.

Meindl dovre or lundhags scout.

Yes clarissa was a right card, her sense of humour was great and her love of hunting had no boundries. I was fortunate to call her a friend and can still remember her and johnny sat in my living room having a "Brew". On one of their visits to my old home i treated her to a local delicacy and she was duly impressed. I nearly pissed myself when she said "AHH Liverpool the home of the Chip Buttie" it was her posh voice, needless to say she wuffed a few chip butties that day. Clarissa a true "Champion" of the countryside. R.I.P. old girl

Welcome Doyle .

Plummer told fairy tales. And your point is ........... My point is Plummers books were filled with fairytales ................................................................................................................................................

Plummer told fairy tales.