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Barrie last won the day on December 30 2017

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  1. Bert Gripton.

    Lutra….. thank you for posting that pic. The recollection of Bert's luxurious "double glazing" (the plastic sheets taped to the inside of the windows to keep the draughts out) made me smile. It's a pity you couldn't have got the front gate in too, I well remember how you would have to jiggle the gate post in order to get it to open or close properly. Thank you for sharing - Barrie
  2. Bert Gripton.

    Hi Rabbit No that would be a different bitch..... I was fortunate enough to have had Judy from 8 weeks up until she died. If she had a vice at all, it was that on occasions she could be a little bit silly on a fox and mistakenly thought she was a match for them all. But with anything else she was very sensible and an absolute pleasure to take out. I had many good years of enjoyment with her, at a time when terrier locators were either none existent, or so "new fangled" and unreliable that they were still pretty much shunned. I guess to some extent this also tended to shape our expectations and what we tended looked for in a dog. At times she could be a rough little bugger, but I don't think I can ever recollect her having killed a single cub of any kind and it would be amusing to see her with her tail tucked under her belly, gently carry them out. I'm sure plenty of others will have seen exactly the same sort of thing.... I guess it's a combination of the maternal instincts kicking in and the fact that the bitch has enough common sense to know they don't pose any sort of threat. Yours in Sport - Barrie
  3. Bert Gripton.

    Dilly Thanks for posting that old photo..... it was taken at the end of a day's otterhunting with the B.C.O.H. on our annual trip to Pembroke and Carmarthen where we'd all take a week's holiday to hunt the P.C.O.H. waters. From left to right they are Chris, my cousin Bo (my original digging partner) and Bert (I was behind the camera), that old Mini Countryman (LEA 50P) covered some hunting miles in its time. Sadly Chris is the only person in that photo alive today and it's fair to say she's weathered a lot better than I have (but then she's had a pretty easy life). I said I thought it was taken in 1976, but looking at those terriers I'm certain it was 1977. The black bitch is Judy (full sister to Poker) which Glynn posted some photos and pedigree of in a previous thread and the red dog is Toby. Both were of very similar lines, Judy was born 14/10/1975, Toby 26/3/1976 and the otter was taken off the quarry list at the end of 1977, so I'm sure it would have been during our last season. The spade stuck in the ground bought back old memories too, we affectionately knew them as "tea spoons". At that time there was a lot of genuine army surplus material about and those were the old Landrover spades issued by the Army, we'd shorten the shaft and pop on a handle so they'd fit inside a Barbour for when we didn't want to be noticed . I used call at a large army surplus dump at Alrewas on the A38 (I suspect you know it as well as I did) and I could buy a bundle of 6 spades all wired together for 10 old shillings (50p). You can't get bargains like that any more Yours in Sport - Barrie
  4. Bert Gripton.

    Yes.... I do indeed :-)
  5. Bert Gripton.

    Foxdropper Unlike so many others, I don't come on here to be contentious or to argue, I have far better things to do with my time. I'd like to think that in most things I say and do, I always try to be honest and base my comments on my own experiences rather than those of others. Clearly you have some doubts about that and you obviously don't know me very well, if at all. As I said previously, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it's right that it should be that way, but if we're to fall back on old cliché's I'd suggest "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" is probably more appropriate. What I can say with some confidence is that Bert's name and reputation as a "Terrierman" (warts and all) will be remembered long after you and I are long buried and forgotten...... and that won't be by accident. Yours in Sport - Barrie
  6. Bert Gripton.

    I have it in my mind that Jamie went into keepering for a while..... then he moved out of the area and I lost contact with him after his father died. But he was a "spunky" little kid and we had some chuckles with him and at his expense too (I guess when you have freckles and ginger hair it's to be expected LOL).
  7. Bert Gripton.

    As is all too often the case, opinions are frequently trotted out on these forums as if they were fact. And whilst I’ve no desire to “pee on anyone’s parade”, or to speak ill of the dead, it’s important that when this happens those who have actual first-hand knowledge and are still fortunate enough to be able to still tell the tale, should at the very least attempt to put the record straight. Otherwise history will be rewritten…. and sadly in some instances rewritten very badly. I was fortunate enough to be a close friend of Bert’s from the early 1970’s up until his death in June 1995. Along with my late cousin “Bo” and my then girlfriend Chris, we travelled the length and breadth of the country in Bert’s big red (James Baker) van. We’d hunt otters in the summer, foxes in the winter, dig most Sundays (summer and winter), drive woods for keepers with a few hounds Bert used to keep for that purpose and fit in the occasional terrier show too. The three of us were with Bert when he first met the American gentleman in the video, Buddy Gayer (sp), it was at the Pennine Hunt Terrier Show and for some strange reason I remember it as clear as if it was yesterday. With regards to the Terrier Man video, that program was first aired on BBC2 29th January 1982 and I still have the original VHS tape copy here. Drabble did a similar but much shorter interview with my late father on “rag whippets” in 1979. I’ve just put down my first edition copies of Drabble’s Pedigree Unknown published 1964 (I’d be 19 at that time) and The Black Country published 1952. I’m fiercely proud of the fact that I was born and brought up in the Black Country and was fortunate enough to grow up alongside and spend time in the company of those very special Black Country men who because of their own unique set of talents featured in both. I would commend both as excellent reading. I have several memories during my mid-teens, of returning home during school holidays with ferrets and nets to find Phil Drabble waiting at my parent’s home for my father to return from work, while he was researching and gathering material for Pedigree Unknown. I also recollect explaining to him on the one occasion how we would take the top and bottom out of a small baked bean tin, fit a lady’s nylon stocking onto the can with elastic bands, tie a knot in the bottom and push the tins into the rat’s holes before we bolted them with our ferrets. As the rats hit the nets, you simply held the knot, gave the stocking a twist and you finished up with a “sausage of live rats”…. It was something he seemed very unfamiliar with! Rightly or wrongly, following the publication of Pedigree Unknown, my father and his close circle of friends formed an unfavourable opinion of Phil Drabble as a result of an article in the Field magazine (they were difficult – but straight talking men to say the least !) and he was advised against using any photos of their dogs in future. He respected their wishes, they only appeared in that first edition, but for anyone who has a first edition, I still have that original set of weighing scales here today. Whether Phil was a friend or otherwise to dog men in general, well we are all entitled to our opinions on that. Personally I always found him to be a perfect gentleman, but I would make two further points. Firstly compare a copy of the original Pedigree Unknown and compare it to subsequent versions. As public opinions change you may also notice a change in content and emphasis. For me and the things I hold dearest, the more recent versions are of little interest, yet I never tire of reading the original. Secondly, I was more than a little active on a variety of fronts at the time there were moves afoot to protect the badger and remove it from the quarry list. Phil was pretty high profile TV Naturalist at that time and very active on the badger protection front. I well remember being sat in front of the TV when he quoted some staggeringly low figures for the number of active breeding setts in the country…. yet they bore very little resemblance to the permission I had, let alone the country as a whole. To conclude, there is one more myth which keeps getting trotted out on this forum which I’d like to dispel and it relates to the photo of Bert, holding his terrier Thatch, with an otter pad in hand. It has been suggested on several occasions that it is the pad of the last legally killed otter and that’s certainly NOT the case at all. I was lucky enough to be there on that day and the pad was taken from a 21lb dog otter caught by the Border Counties Otterhounds on the River Seven at Llandinam. Both Thatch and Bert worked their hearts out that day, in difficult circumstances and in front of a huge field. Bert was presented with that pad by the late great R.P Williams Master/Huntsman BCOH in appreciation of their contribution to the day’s hunting. The BCOH put in many days hunting after that and it was definitely not the last otter they caught. For those with a particular interest in Bert, who as Neil so rightly points out “earned his reputation at the coal face” rather than in some of the other less honourable, or worthy ways so commonplace today. There are a number of previous threads including….. http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/120571-bert-gripton/ Yours in Sport (And With Apologies for Banging On) - Barrie
  8. Qualifiers

    Yes mate sorted.... and a good cause too
  9. Qualifiers

    Hi Don Drop me an email and I'll send you the paperwork. Regards - Barrie
  10. Arthur Nixon.

    For anyone attending the funeral.... as per Arthur's wishes, the requested dress code is "countrywear" rather than mourning clothes. As always a "countryman" as well as a true gentleman RIP.
  11. Hi Corkman, Thank you and others for those very kind words…. but for me it’s a privilege to be associated with the I.W.T.F., albeit in in a very small way. I have nothing but the greatest respect for what it and its officers have achieved and the manner in which they have always conducted themselves. It’s a real life example to all of us of what can be achieved if you’re willing to take your head out of the sand and fight for what you truly believe in, rather than simply spout hot air and squabble with each other. That the I.W.T.F., in such a short time, was able to change the political view of terrierwork in Ireland from “A hunt too far” into “An essential and necessary form of pest control” speaks volumes in itself. On this side of the Pond we’re fortunate to have such capable friends and allies, and it’s you guys who deserve all of the credit. I’m sorry I couldn’t be with you this year and would very much like to have been, but it was just bad timing on my part. But please be gentle with the official “spade bearer” he’s a very delicate flower as I’m sure you already know and ill prepared for what he is likely to encounter LOL. Y.I.S. - Barrie
  12. Terrier Ornaments

    Just out of interest.... currently there's one of these Border Fine Arts models for sale on ebay. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/291707096573?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
  13. Terrier Ornaments

    Hi Rippem I know both pieces of artwork (both the single and the double)..... the single was produced by Border Fine Arts (I have one on my shelf now) and the doubles are an entirely different model. The double models were indeed commissioned and marketed by Char Smith and are they are quite different when viewed in close up. I've known Char for many years, since she first came over here to hunt and to dig in the U.K., I'd guess that was at least 25 years ago and quite possibly approaching 30. I've also hunted with her on several occasions in the USA and as you've already indicated.... she's a very honest lady and one who hunts her dogs on a regular basis. Just out of interest and for clarification, the Border Fine Arts model was produced around 1983, it was a limited edition model, which is why the moulds were broken and it was produced in 3 different colour variations ( but using the same mould). The colour variations were black (Patterdale), black and tan (Lakeland) and white and tan (Russell), if my memory serves me right, the cost at that time (1983) was £20 and for an extra £5 (quite a lot of money in those days) you could send in a photo of your own dog and the model would be produced with identical markings. On the very rare occasions that I've seen any of the standard models come up for sale on ebay, it's not uncommon for them to fetch £375 or thereabouts and I've often wondered what the custom versions might fetch as they are truly unique. Kindest Regards - Barrie
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