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Posted 25 October 2009 - 09:36 AM
The other night i was out lamping with my lurcher,id caught quite a few rabbits ,iwas on my way home when the blue lights behind me came on , i thought dam what now id been pulled only the week before in the same area,so i get out and look its the same stuck up prick who pulled me last time,any way to cut a long story short,they searched the van looking for anything out off place then pc plod said how u gut the rabbits i replied with my trusty kinfe ,he says can i have alook i said sure.AS soon as i pulled it out he says o dear its a lock knife its illegal to carry in a public place :sick: baering in mind i ve had this knife 6 years and its gutted about 2000 rabbits he said it was illegal and it had to destroyed so i pleaded my case with him but got no where he said he was going to arrest me e.tc e.tc but because i had no previous convictions they just made me sign something saying they had took it off me.ALL i want to know is can he do that i had a lagitamate reason for carring it and i was on permission i love that knife its been part off me for so long can any 1 help ??????can i get it back??was he in the wrong????
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LOCK KNIFES What is the law
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 09:25 PM
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Posted 25 October 2009 - 11:35 PM
Knives
Manufacture/sell/hire ‘Flick Knife’ or ‘Flick Gun’.
Source: Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act, 1959. Section 1(1).
Offence: It is an offence for a person to manufacture, sell, hire or offer for sale or hire or expose or have in his possession for the purpose of sale or hire, or lend or give to any person:
A) any knife which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, sometimes know as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’; or
B) any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device, sometimes known as a ‘gravity knife’.
Powers: Proceedings should be by way of a summons only, unless any of the conditions of s.25 of PACE 1984 are satisfied.
Import
Source: Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act, 1959. Section 1(2).
Offence: It is an offence to import any knife as described in s.1(1) and sometimes known as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’ and ‘gravity knife’
Powers: Arrestable offence.
Public Place
Source: Criminal Justice Act, 1988. Section 139(1).
Offence: It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches.
Powers: Arrestable offence.
Been searching the net for the info on lock knifes cant find out...
Manufacture/sell/hire ‘Flick Knife’ or ‘Flick Gun’.
Source: Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act, 1959. Section 1(1).
Offence: It is an offence for a person to manufacture, sell, hire or offer for sale or hire or expose or have in his possession for the purpose of sale or hire, or lend or give to any person:
A) any knife which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in or attached to the handle of the knife, sometimes know as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’; or
B) any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force and which, when released, is locked in place by means of a button, spring, lever, or other device, sometimes known as a ‘gravity knife’.
Powers: Proceedings should be by way of a summons only, unless any of the conditions of s.25 of PACE 1984 are satisfied.
Import
Source: Restriction of Offensive Weapons Act, 1959. Section 1(2).
Offence: It is an offence to import any knife as described in s.1(1) and sometimes known as a ‘flick knife’ or ‘flick gun’ and ‘gravity knife’
Powers: Arrestable offence.
Public Place
Source: Criminal Justice Act, 1988. Section 139(1).
Offence: It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches.
Powers: Arrestable offence.
Been searching the net for the info on lock knifes cant find out...
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 12:04 AM
The important part of the wording of the law in this case is "without good reason ".
If you possess a knife over 3inches (or any similar edged tool such as 18 inch sythe for cutting the weeds on your allotment ) you are quite within the law as long as you have "good reason". In this case you had been legally rabbiting .
The locking device on a lock-knife is simply a safety feature it is not to be confused with the mechanism of a flick knife . A flick knife is primarily a weapon whereas a gutting knife is a tool .
It sounds like the policeman was mistaken .
If you possess a knife over 3inches (or any similar edged tool such as 18 inch sythe for cutting the weeds on your allotment ) you are quite within the law as long as you have "good reason". In this case you had been legally rabbiting .
The locking device on a lock-knife is simply a safety feature it is not to be confused with the mechanism of a flick knife . A flick knife is primarily a weapon whereas a gutting knife is a tool .
It sounds like the policeman was mistaken .
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 09:28 AM
yup... agree, if you had good reason, and on your way to/from your hunting [where you may need it to gut/cut bush etc] then that is good reason and the officer was in error. you may still be able to get it back if you act now otherwise it will be destroyed.
they could have arrested you, confiscated it, but after investigation [and you getting a brief of course] they would have had to release you and give it back. you could also have looked into unlawful arrest as well, cos they could have found all that out by talking to you at the time, and confirming it.
of course this all relates to the info in your first post being correct.
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they could have arrested you, confiscated it, but after investigation [and you getting a brief of course] they would have had to release you and give it back. you could also have looked into unlawful arrest as well, cos they could have found all that out by talking to you at the time, and confirming it.
of course this all relates to the info in your first post being correct.
ATB
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 09:30 AM
comanche, on Oct 26 2009, 12:04 AM, said:
The important part of the wording of the law in this case is "without good reason ".
If you possess a knife over 3inches (or any similar edged tool such as 18 inch sythe for cutting the weeds on your allotment ) you are quite within the law as long as you have "good reason". In this case you had been legally rabbiting .
The locking device on a lock-knife is simply a safety feature it is not to be confused with the mechanism of a flick knife . A flick knife is primarily a weapon whereas a gutting knife is a tool .
It sounds like the policeman was mistaken .
If you possess a knife over 3inches (or any similar edged tool such as 18 inch sythe for cutting the weeds on your allotment ) you are quite within the law as long as you have "good reason". In this case you had been legally rabbiting .
The locking device on a lock-knife is simply a safety feature it is not to be confused with the mechanism of a flick knife . A flick knife is primarily a weapon whereas a gutting knife is a tool .
It sounds like the policeman was mistaken .
Agree. :yes:
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