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stuborn? or just plain stupid lurcher?
#1
Posted 17 October 2009 - 10:37 AM
I have only just found this site, thought id register to hopefully get some advice about the youngest of my lurchers who is a real pain in the butt! I have tried soem other forums but they seem to be very give em a treat for thins and treat for that every time they so much as sneeze, which is not very helpfull as the lurcher couldnt care less about food if she gets distracted!
The older one will chase and recall when asked, has chased off a few trespassers form my house, he will even sit and do paw :D
Where as the younger one seems to just not be able to foucs for more than 5 mins on anything, it took me 2 weeks to teech her to wait for her dinner dish to be put down rather than prancing about like a fairy! I would love to be able to do something with her as she is very quick, i have had quite a few offers from others to buy her from those that have seen her run. I have no problems with her foucusing on stuff to chase or her speed its just getting her to come back and and listen if she is told no!
I have got to the stage now where im wondering if she is just plain stupid or maybe being stubborn due to her age? I have never had any problems with the other dogs with recall or even learning something so simple as wait.
The older one will chase and recall when asked, has chased off a few trespassers form my house, he will even sit and do paw :D
Where as the younger one seems to just not be able to foucs for more than 5 mins on anything, it took me 2 weeks to teech her to wait for her dinner dish to be put down rather than prancing about like a fairy! I would love to be able to do something with her as she is very quick, i have had quite a few offers from others to buy her from those that have seen her run. I have no problems with her foucusing on stuff to chase or her speed its just getting her to come back and and listen if she is told no!
I have got to the stage now where im wondering if she is just plain stupid or maybe being stubborn due to her age? I have never had any problems with the other dogs with recall or even learning something so simple as wait.
#5
Posted 17 October 2009 - 12:41 PM
She is still a baby. I would concentrate on just going out with her on a long line lead and let her watch the other one. Keep training short and sweet, end on a good note and not a thrashing! If you let her off the lead, it is for short training times, ie let her off, call her back and reward her. Keep walks slow and her interested in you. Don't start to work her until you have her concentration. Few dogs, especially lurchers are stupid. Look at your body language, your tone of voice. Try calling her back with an upbeat high enthusiastic voice (pretend if you have to). Keep biccies in your pocket. Reward the good behaviour and ignore the bad, ie do not look at her and send her out of your "pack". You have 3 seconds in a dogs' mind after any deed to say "thankyou, good girl" or to punish. After that, don't waste your breath.
You want her to think you are more interesting than the chase if you want her to come back and sometimes there ain't anything better than a chase. :D
My old lurcher comes back but he was 18 months before i got him seeing sense really or listening to me and he still runs off a bit 12 years on!
She will hopefully learn off the older dog. Every dog is different so you have to find out what gets into her head. Some dogs are motivated by food, some by the leader who is their everything and some by a short sharp shock!
Good luck. My lurcher is motivated mostly by enthusiasm for doing the right thing. My terriers are motivated by food! I am motivated by both of these!
You want her to think you are more interesting than the chase if you want her to come back and sometimes there ain't anything better than a chase. :D
My old lurcher comes back but he was 18 months before i got him seeing sense really or listening to me and he still runs off a bit 12 years on!
She will hopefully learn off the older dog. Every dog is different so you have to find out what gets into her head. Some dogs are motivated by food, some by the leader who is their everything and some by a short sharp shock!
Good luck. My lurcher is motivated mostly by enthusiasm for doing the right thing. My terriers are motivated by food! I am motivated by both of these!
#7
Posted 17 October 2009 - 07:16 PM
undisputed, on Oct 17 2009, 01:37 PM, said:
Have you tried training her from a pup????? ;)
We havent had her from a pup, we got her when she was around 6 months old. She has also had problems with her digestive system, she had the runs or would throw up pretty much any food we gave her. She has been to the vets about it and we have finally found a food that suits her, so she can put some more weight on. All of this has delayed her training, we finally managed toilet training around 9 months.
Pignut, on Oct 17 2009, 01:41 PM, said:
She will hopefully learn off the older dog. Every dog is different so you have to find out what gets into her head. Some dogs are motivated by food, some by the leader who is their everything and some by a short sharp shock!
Maybe im just expecting too much comparing her to the other lurcher, he does have collie in him though so is quick to learn. :doh: Although the problem with giving food rewards we have with her is finding some thing she can eat, that she is interested in outdoors.
poacher3161, on Oct 17 2009, 01:55 PM, said:
Hows it bred??atb dell
Im not entirely sure, as the people we got her from werent too sure as they but bought her as a pet from working stock. She is just a bit too big to be a whippet, she is very delicate and shortcoated.
#8
Posted 17 October 2009 - 09:47 PM
The advice given above is great so I would follow it if I were you.
Dogs are like kids (my little boy couldn't sit down long enough to eat a whole meal til he was about 4!). Some dogs are just quicker at some things than others, my pup is 13 months and she took an age (til she was about 8 months) to housetrain and is still struggling to learn to lie down when told, but she could sit from about 10 weeks and could sit on a hand command only from about 20 weeks. Her recall is great, most of the other walkers at the park are jealous cos she puts all their adult dogs to shame! Her heelwork is also superb.
When you get frustrated try to focus on what he is good at and if you have a poor training session and you are really peed off, do something she is good at before you finish. Plus as her training effectively started at 6 months she will take a bit longer than a younger pup.
Good luck with her, I'm sure she will settle down eventually!
Dogs are like kids (my little boy couldn't sit down long enough to eat a whole meal til he was about 4!). Some dogs are just quicker at some things than others, my pup is 13 months and she took an age (til she was about 8 months) to housetrain and is still struggling to learn to lie down when told, but she could sit from about 10 weeks and could sit on a hand command only from about 20 weeks. Her recall is great, most of the other walkers at the park are jealous cos she puts all their adult dogs to shame! Her heelwork is also superb.
When you get frustrated try to focus on what he is good at and if you have a poor training session and you are really peed off, do something she is good at before you finish. Plus as her training effectively started at 6 months she will take a bit longer than a younger pup.
Good luck with her, I'm sure she will settle down eventually!
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